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[Renault]

My experience is that SCH is effectively shut down by SMN.

Every class is shut down by SMN...

[Bluffnix]

Every class is shut down by SMN...

Every class is shut down by a SMN, yes this is true to some extent. But SMN was a highlight to tie into how bad SCH is at healing.

Over time, a 3/1 ratio develops in favor of the team with sustained healing (AST & WHM).

[Renault]

Every class is shut down by a SMN, yes this is true to some extent. But SMN was a highlight to tie into how bad SCH is at healing.

Over time, a 3/1 ratio develops in favor of the team with sustained healing (AST & WHM).

I don't think SCH is that bad at healing. Actually, they have more healing potential than AST's. However, they require good fairy management to do well and also need their aetherflow stacks. Since their aetherflow can be removed so easily, they are left in a pretty solid 3rd place spot.

To put into perspective, I think SCH actually has a very close 2nd way of dealing with SMN, since they have Eos. SCH can use Focalization, Fey Covenant and whispering dawn to make their AOE magic damage extremely trivial. The only thing that comes close to this is WHM and their divine seal medica 2's and regens on everyone.

[Kyani]

To put into perspective, I think SCH actually has a very close 2nd way of dealing with SMN, since they have Eos. .. Fey Covenant..

Fey Covenant doesn't actually do anything in pvp, unfortunately - it affects the Magic Defense stat directly.

Scholar is just too finite - if the fights go long, you are automatically the weaker healer. As a result, you are incapable of carrying bad DPS - you literally run out of abilities to heal with during Culling Time.

[Renault]

Fey Covenant doesn't actually do anything in pvp, unfortunately - it affects the Magic Defense stat directly.

Scholar is just too finite - if the fights go long, you are automatically the weaker healer. As a result, you are incapable of carrying bad DPS - you literally run out of abilities to heal with during Culling Time.

I see. That's a shame. It doesn't effect it because it is synched, I assume? That's poor design, and I wasn't aware!

[RiceisNice]

I see. That's a shame. It doesn't effect it because it is synched, I assume? That's poor design, and I wasn't aware!

Someone a while back discovered that defense stats are not in effect for PvP (it's set to 0), only base damage reduction. It was a while back in the 2.x series, but it was something like where all tanks took 15% less damage, casters/healers took 10% less from magic, and full from physical, etc etc. It was also that change that gave base classes a lower bonus toward those mitigation.

Because of that, anything that buffs your defense rating (like protect, foresight) by a percentage has no effect. However, everyone has a base resistance of 100 (slashing, piercing, blunt, and magic) which is affected by specific debuffs or buffs that increase/decrease resistance. Straight damage reduction is still fair game.

[Kyani]

Someone a while back discovered that defense stats are not in effect for PvP (it's set to 0), only base damage reduction. It was a while back in the 2.x series, but it was something like where all tanks took 15% less damage, casters/healers took 10% less from magic, and full from physical, etc etc. It was also that change that gave base classes a lower bonus toward those mitigation.

The whole chart is in the 2.4 patchnotes, under Battle. It's never been brought up again, or listed anywhere, but it still works the same way.

Tanks take -10% from Phys, and normal from Magic.
Melee take -5% from Phys, and normal from Magic.
Casters take -5% from Magic, and normal from Phys.
Healers take -10% from Magic, and normal from Phys.

BRD and MCH get screwed - they take normal from both. If anything is looked at balance-wise for the two classes, this might be a good place.