So how are astros in pvp now?

[Morningstar1337]

As an AST, I have to say I was very surprised to be able to tank in Feast. Noct. Field, Retrograde, Opposition, Lightspeed. I'm almost untouchable (well almost)

[RocheKat]

Is Ast good? I would bet money that Sch and Whm get a pvp buff or Ast gets a pvp nerf.

I guess it is possible that every single AST I run into is an absolute master but I doubt it.

[Dyvid]

Yea, I expect to see AST getting hit with the nerf stick. We just have a good tool box to heal while running around.

[PotatoTree]

One of the bigger issues is that SCH and WHM have resources (cooldowns) that make them vulnerable when they run out. AST can still perform amazingly even after running out of every cooldown.

[Kazami]

ASTs makes Feast games go stale. I seen Culling stacks went to 5 stacks when theres 4 AST and still no deaths.. ZZZ

[Kyani]

One of the bigger issues is that SCH and WHM have resources (cooldowns) that make them vulnerable when they run out. AST can still perform amazingly even after running out of every cooldown.

At least for White mage, it's gradual - Regen and Surecast can help stave off damage once both teams have blown their loads. Scholar falls off a cliff the second its last cooldown runs out, and it's made even worse by the need to use Dissipation as part of your throughput salvo.

I'm actually having (limited) success as Scholar by telling my teams to play really defensively, and to let the other team make the first engage, but it's a strong uphill battle. I'll have games where I outheal the enemy WHM or AST before even factoring in shields, but it's still not enough to keep people from dying - there are large chunks of time where I have no ability to assist my team outside of a single Surecast.

Scholar was amazing in Seal Rock because the length of time between engagements allowed Aetherflow, Equanimity and Mana Draw to be up for almost every fight, but Scholar's always been hard capped around 3:30-4:00 of combat and fights in Feast can last upwards of 5. Toward the end of that, the only way a Scholar can compete is by being way better than the opposing healer.

[Niroken]

At least for White mage, it's gradual - Regen and Surecast can help stave off damage once both teams have blown their loads. Scholar falls off a cliff the second its last cooldown runs out, and it's made even worse by the need to use Dissipation as part of your throughput salvo.

I wouldn't rely on Regen to save someone if I was stunned, silenced or sleeping. If the enemy team wants that person dead Regen won't stop them, it'll mostly counter DoTs up to a point. Also if i'm not mistaken SCH should have access to Surecast as well.

I can see WHM being the most unique healer in PvP right now as Assize is bugged allowing us to be the only healer that can kill their own teammates.

[Kyani]

I wouldn't rely on Regen to save someone if I was stunned, silenced or sleeping. If the enemy team wants that person dead Regen won't stop them, it'll mostly counter DoTs up to a point. Also if i'm not mistaken SCH should have access to Surecast as well.

SCH and WHM both have access to Surecast, but i'm talking about way late into a fight, when there's only rotational damage going out. At that point, Regen & Medica II are both very potent at keeping you alive long enough for something to come off of cooldown, and SCH's equivalents (surecast Succor & Embrace) really can't hold a candle to it.

It's even worse because SCH has to sacrifice its regen effect toward the end of a heavy battle, and that has a minimum cost of 45 seconds + 2600 mana to get back.

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Mana permitting, WHM's fail state is Regen on 4 targets and a Surecast (for either Cure II or Medica II) within the next 30 seconds.

My fail state is Surecast for Adlo, Succor or (theoretically) Summon, because the button I use to match Benediction or Lightspeed reduces my long-term healing healing ability by at least 33% (and often a lot more in practical terms).

[Niroken]

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I think we can both agree that SCH and WHM has to work much harder in PvP then AST.

[RocheKat]

Yea, I expect to see AST getting hit with the nerf stick. We just have a good tool box to heal while running around.

So many times now I have taken an AST down to next to nothing only to have them right back full HP again. SCH and WHM are lucky to do that once while AST just keep doing it... while running. Its like fighting a restro druid during TBC.

If their team groups up and I can toss out dots/aoes at everyone it seems to mess with them. Other then that adrenaline works pretty good on them