Are there more tanks playing now?

[Kabooa]

I want to be a tank that can survive more then 1 tankbuster without the aid of a healer. If I want numbers I can go straight back to BLM. And I've seen the numbers of DRG and have no interest in "Monk for Dummies".

So you want to be a tank that requires absolutely no healing for 45 seconds or so?

[MagiusNecros]

So you want to be a tank that requires absolutely no healing for 45 seconds or so?

More like 20. 45 seconds is a little much.

[Synestra]

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So bacially you want to do same numbers as DPS jobs but now that you cant outparse them tanking suddenly became boring? I really cannot graps this mentality specially now that tank skillcap went trought the roof, STR tanking was easymode because you could sit in DPS stance 24/7 after initial pull while forgetting enmity even existed.

[Tint]

I want to be a tank that can survive more then 1 tankbuster without the aid of a healer.

i am a healer who wants something to do too c.c,,

[Adire]

So bacially you want to do same numbers as DPS jobs but now that you cant outparse them tanking suddenly became boring? I really cannot graps this mentality specially now that tank skillcap went trought the roof, STR tanking was easymode because you could sit in DPS stance 24/7 after initial pull while forgetting enmity even existed.

When will people learn....

Before 3.2, tanks could only come close to outparsing bad dps. Tanks could only straight up outparse dirt awful dps.

And by the way, no, STR tanking was not easy mode. STR tanking made popping CDs at critical moments and balancing their cooldowns that much more important. STR tanking was not "just dps stance and go crazy", as you seem to believe.

[Reynhart]

STR tanking made popping CDs at critical moments and balancing their cooldowns that much more important.

Last time I checked, the cooldown rotation against spike damage doesn't care that you wear VIT or STR, since it's based of the boss' pattern.

[Adire]

Last time I checked, the cooldown rotation against spike damage doesn't care that you wear VIT or STR, since it's based of the boss' pattern.

I know that.

Doesn't change the fact that lower hp means you're on a tighter HP budget though.

[Reynhart]

Doesn't change the fact that lower hp means you're on a tighter HP budget though.

Yes, but what you need to realize is that this HP budget is not for you to manage...but for your healer.

Surviving as a STR tank doesn't mean that you're a "good" tank, but that you have a good healer that can keep you alive with a lower safety net.

[Ragology]

Last time I checked, the cooldown rotation against spike damage doesn't care that you wear VIT or STR, since it's based of the boss' pattern.

I think that part was being emphasized because of the popular belief that STR tanks are so tunnel visioned that they don't bother with defensive cooldowns.

Some people act like the term "strength tank" is a synonym for "bad tank."

[Adire]

Yes, but what you need to realize is that this HP budget is not for you to manage...but for your healer.

Surviving as a STR tank doesn't mean that you're a "good" tank, but that you have a good healer that can keep you alive with a lower safety net.

False.

It's for both to manage. The tank needs to know what they need to do to survive large incoming damage with a low health pool, and when to do it. The healer needs to be ready to heal them back up asap.

If the STR tank can't pop cooldowns correctly, the best healer in the world won't be able to save them if they get taken down before a heal can be thrown out, or if they get 1 shotted. Especially with the slight lag involved with instant heals.