id like to see cross class skills removed/changed for next expansion

[Nalien]

The way you expressed your idea is better than the OP's. Maybe there is hope.

That's my point.

You want someone to polish the suggestion, I did. That's why I'm so bleedin' confused here...

Having Second Wind on Ninja does not add to Ninjas identity, meanwhile there is a heal skill NPC Ninjas use (Suiyaku), which... You know... Would... Add to that the potential for these to be earned from "optional" quests, and you've provided more lore to the Jobs than before, while providing unique skills that fill the same function as the existing cross-class skills. That's not to say Suiyaku should be a carbon copy of Second Wind, it could be more/less potent, have a shorter/longer cooldown, could tie into existing Ninja mechanics (the Venoms), etc. etc.. Overall that does a lot more for class identity than setting Second Wind...

And for those worried about the fact that cross-class skills exist to have you "sample" other Jobs... Well, Jobs already do that, and such quests could carry on the additional class requirement the first Job quests had. Even tie in with the old classes; The quest for Suiyaku could have you taking your Ninja friends to Ul'dah to learn from the Pugilists, for example. Naturally you'd need Pugilist leveled for that. Actually having quests like that would make it far more obvious what skills you want to set as well. There would be no Warriors who don't know what Provoke is, because they'd see the quest unlocking their version of Provoke and work towards doing that quest.

That's pretty much the entirety of my suggestion. That's the post you quoted, either there is a flaw with it or there isn't.

And what about the fact that we might get only jobs henceforth, and no more classes? Cross-actions will become outdated, yes. There is two aspects to be considered here, both mechanincs and class fantasies.

Touched on this last page, too. If, instead of seeing Second Wind, Ninja gets a quest to unlock Suiyaku, then SE can essentially break the mould with the existing cross-class restrictions. They don't have to limit use to two classes, because they can simply give us the skills we "need" and remove the complete illusion of choice we currently have (nobody in their right mind would set Cure on Scholar, for example). Since it becomes tied to quests, rather than just what classes you've leveled, they could essentially include new Jobs in this as well. They're not stuck saying "This new tank needs to use cross-class skills from Gladiator and Warrior because it absolutely needs Provoke", they can bend the rules and do something entirely different. It can get Provoke (or rather a version of Provoke) from a quest that requires Gladiator leveled, and then it can get something entirely different from another class. It wouldn't be stuck with redundant options like Savage Blade.