Bitter White Mages

[loreleidiangelo]

Actually no. The OP pretty much just says "WHMs are mean, my friends say so too, no offense lol" and then refers to one vague example of when someone said something about what stance they were in. One example is not indicative of anything, sorry.

I actually agree with Faize. In the beginning people kept it reasonably neutral, debating about Diurnal efficacy when paired with WHM, but too many of the more recent comments are just thinly-veiled job hate. Who cares if SCHs are mean to you sometimes? Who cares if the terrible healer you got in Void Ark happened to be AST? For one, have some perspective - people might think you're "mean" when you're just being blunt or efficient. People might think you're "bad" because you did one thing here when you should have done some other thing, but you normally know what you're on about. Do you want your every move to be scrutinized in future runs and have that person use it as a reflection for your entire job? What the heck is even the POINT of this thread? Debating which stance to use as an Astrologian depending on your co-healer, or a catty gripe thread where you air all your grudges for everyone to see?

That's okay though, looking forward to "I got a verbal smackdown on the forum from an AST so now I think all ASTs are poo".

[Cyrocco]

Actually no. The OP pretty much just says "WHMs are mean, my friends say so too, no offense lol" and then refers to one vague example of when someone said something about what stance they were in. One example is not indicative of anything, sorry.

I could just as easily reverse the logic:
I know it's really bad stereotyping but it feels like every time someone has a problem with healing they're an AST (one time I healed with an AST and they were so bad), and I ran this by people in my company and they notice ASTs tend to be terrible at everything when it comes to raids and healing, what's the deal qwq

Oh but I'm just "telling my story", no need to get offended right?

Go ahead, make that post, get us buffed again, see if I care.

[Atoli]

I have not seen WHMs being overly rude or bitter in any way, and I refuse to heal in Noct stance unless I absolutely have to because we need the shields.
The main reason being that my MP management is more on the poor side, and with shields shattering after every hit, I'd be out of MP after a few casts. I'm also one of those healers who like to dps, and Diurnal lets me do that better.
As a former WHM main and SCH hater, regen is way more up my alley than SCH-like Noct Stance anyway.

Also, while mitigation is nice and everything, unless one hit instantly kills people without mitigation, I feel it's wasted. With double regen on them from both WHM and AST, the HoT ticks are so strong, you can stay in Cleric Stance for extended amounts of time, and regen stays active a lot longer than those shields would stay. And most WHMs seem to totally accept that.

The only one who is bitter is me, whenever I end up with another AST in roulette and they see my stance and turn on the same one..>->

[Wintersandman]

I play as an AST and I find Diurnal as the stance I go to most. I always use it when paired with a SCH and then I will switch stances based upon the encounter when paired with a whm. I got Noct when I can predict than incoming damage and Diurnal when damage is unpredictable.

There is something to be said about the flexibility AST provides.

[TheUltimateSeph]

Well one thing to remember when comparing Diurnal and Nocturnal. Yes shields are nice and if I heal for 2000 then it's a 2600 barrier. On the other hand Diurnal regen is 1100 a tick for 18s. So more healing without having to recast. Diurnal also gives AST a 5% Attack speed buff which is better for dps than a 5% healing buff that Nocturnal does. As much as we want Noct to be good paired with WHM it's really not.

This. So many times I put up shields with my AST and before I can really go back to doing much dps the shields are already gone and they need more heals. Diurnal HoT really does stack nicely with WHM Medica and allow for more time spent DPSing by the AST in my experience.

[Niroken]

This. So many times I put up shields with my AST and before I can really go back to doing much dps the shields are already gone and they need more heals.

AST got Stoneskin?

Dem feels.

[Mirili]

I actually agree with Faize. In the beginning people kept it reasonably neutral, debating about Diurnal efficacy when paired with WHM, but too many of the more recent comments are just thinly-veiled job hate. Who cares if SCHs are mean to you sometimes? Who cares if the terrible healer you got in Void Ark happened to be AST? -SNIPPED FOR MY CONVENIENCE- Do you want your every move to be scrutinized in future runs and have that person use it as a reflection for your entire job? What the heck is even the POINT of this thread? Debating which stance to use as an Astrologian depending on your co-healer, or a catty gripe thread where you air all your grudges for everyone to see?

That's okay though, looking forward to "I got a verbal smackdown on the forum from an AST so now I think all ASTs are poo".

Can this just replace every post in this thread and be stickied?

[Fernosaur]

Omg, see guys? I told you all that ASTs were super mean. Q_Q

[Igneel]

Personally all my post was about was to say my experience was different, does it mean that all SCH are mean, no because to be quite honest the meanest healer I've ever met was another WHM in my own FC. The OP said that most WHM seem to be mean and I was simply pointing out the fact that my experience was different.

Like in my experience WAR tends to run off more when I play for some reason, but my brother says PLD runs off more when he plays. There's nothing wrong with talking about your experience as long as you don't make assumptions about the entire class. Like saying Melee DPS don’t dodge AOE.

[Shyluv]

I'm fine with both SCH and WHM. With a SCH, I always go diurnal. With WHM, it depends on the WHM and the fight.

I almost always hate being paired with another AST though. Not because of the sects, but because of the cards. I have seen a depressing amount of other AST overwrite my AOE balance that was only 10 seconds in.