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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcher24 View Post
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    They are adding more wards, what I think is hilarious is your comment on RMT to buy the house- thats just ignorance right there. Go make some Gil its easy as hell. And put yourself up in PF advertising that you would like to buy a house o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuel81 View Post
    They are adding more wards, what I think is hilarious is your comment on RMT to buy the house- thats just ignorance right there. Go make some Gil its easy as hell. And put yourself up in PF advertising that you would like to buy a house o.O
    OP, do not take this advice. It is technically against the ToS.
    You cannot actually buy a house from a player. You can only bribe them in to demolishing their house and relinquishing the plot to the open market. Which you then have to buy before someone else does.
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  3. #13
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    Pandora Heinstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    OP, do not take this advice. It is technically against the ToS.
    You cannot actually buy a house from a player. You can only bribe them in to demolishing their house and relinquishing the plot to the open market. Which you then have to buy before someone else does.
    Interesting to note that NA/JP game masters tend to forbid the housing market through PF/shouts whereas it is generally OK for euro GMs.

    On the EU server i am it is really common to see this.

    Usually it s often the same players or FCs buying / selling spotsall the time.

    I feel like it s easier to find a "WTS house" PF than a static recruitment...
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  4. 02-27-2016 02:15 AM
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  5. #14
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    I think the original poster's main point is that there simply isn't enough housing available, which I can definitely agree with. There should be enough housing for every player on the server, with gil being the only hurdle (and I'm talking about pricing as set by SE, not pricing set by players who want to go against SE's policies and resell homes for ridiculous amounts of money).

    Now, I know they're getting ready to add more wards, but even if they double the amount of existing neighborhoods that still isn't going to be enough to meet demand. And the apartment idea is not (I suspect) what most players are looking for as a solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    I think the original poster's main point is that there simply isn't enough housing available, which I can definitely agree with. There should be enough housing for every player on the server, with gil being the only hurdle (and I'm talking about pricing as set by SE, not pricing set by players who want to go against SE's policies and resell homes for ridiculous amounts of money).

    Now, I know they're getting ready to add more wards, but even if they double the amount of existing neighborhoods that still isn't going to be enough to meet demand. And the apartment idea is not (I suspect) what most players are looking for as a solution.
    Thank you. Everyone is too busy being offended by an obviously ignorant remark(the RMT one), despite the fact that it seems half of the posters even agree with the main point. The TC is a new player, frustrated, and trying to vent their frustration to the community. Almost every one of us has played a new game, become frustrated over something that happened, and jumped to an irrational conclusion based on our inexperience; they're hacking, botting, buying gil, etc.

    I do agree with one poster that it's a sore topic and the OP did basically just pour salt in the wound, but does getting offended so easily truly help anything? Hopefully they learned how many people have legitimately purchased homes now, they now know more about how to get a home, and we can now read the -rest- of the post, without focusing on one sentence; one sentence that mentions "outbidding" people to boot, as if that's a thing in FFXIV.

    Also TC, add me to the list of legitimate home owners, and my entire FC even. My small FC is almost all crafters, and they used crafting to buy a small, then crafting and gardening to upgrade to a medium, then to a large. I made my money mostly from the shares on crops when they came up after we got a large, on top of retainer ventures and GC seal farming for crafting materials to sell to buy my own small.
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    Last edited by Neira; 02-27-2016 at 09:28 AM.

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    You think I bought gil? No. I hoarded my gil and built it up over time to buy a large mansion for myself. It helped that the semester for college ended and I could play all day long when heavensward came out and prices on all the gathered mats were super high, but I spent a lot of time acquiring the 40 million gil for my mansion. There are actually people that have earned hundreds of millions of gil in this game. There are even people who have multiple houses by having their own fc house and a personal house and/or having multiple alt characters.
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  8. #17
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    Ciel Valke
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    I find it hilarious how people are getting personally offended at a general comment. You should actually be agreeing with him. He never said YOU-- YEAH YOU PERSONALLY-- bought gil to get your house. But it's a fact a number of people probably did. Yeah. While you busted your ass making money for your house, a number of people most likely bought Gil to get theirs instantly. THAT's what you should be angry at.
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    I'll make the unpopular (albeit completely honest and accurate) comment: anyone who has sold anything to another player, whether directly or through the marketplace, has had gil pass through their hands at some point that was originally purchased from RMT sources.

    With all the ridiculous prices players charge one another.. where does everyone think all that money comes from? You don't set prices at several hundred thousand to millions (especially when selling homes) while targeting currency that was earned 100% legitimately. There's huge swaths of RMT currency floating out there in our economy, and (whether they realize it or not) every single seller is trying to get a hold of some without buying it directly from the very source they condemn.

    Any of you are kidding yourselves if you think all the money you've made is 100% RMT-free -- the only people who can honestly make that claim are the players who have earned their fortunes without ever selling anything to another player. Not many people have unlocked the "Honest Gillionaire" title several times over, I suspect.

    Sad, but true.
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  10. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    OP, do not take this advice. It is technically against the ToS.
    You cannot actually buy a house from a player. You can only bribe them in to demolishing their house and relinquishing the plot to the open market. Which you then have to buy before someone else does.
    Show me where in ToS, that someone cannot sell in game items (houses) for in game currency?
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    Last edited by Lemuel81; 02-28-2016 at 04:26 PM.

  11. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
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    Umm I can make millions of Gil a day easy if I really wanted to....Gil is so easy to make in this game- while there is a lot of RMT like any other MMOrpg, its not hard to come up with 20+ million a week very easily.
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    Last edited by Lemuel81; 02-28-2016 at 04:27 PM.

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