Sephirot Theme ( Phase 2 ) sound familiar?

[Aeliott]

They are very very similar (at the beginning at least), but I trust Soken wasn't aware. I see this all the time, and the whole music plagiarism thing is such a weird subject. I'm no virtuoso, but I've written quite a few songs, and most of them I have some acquaintance going "oh hey, this sounds just like [obscure band #3109]"! And sure enough I check them out, having genuinely never heard the song before, and what do you know, it's the same - instrumentation and all almost (once I'd seemingly ripped off a christmas carol...). And then you get unfortunate situations like this where coincidentally they hit very close to the mark. And yes, I completely believe Soken when he says he wasn't aware of it. It's like Never Gonna Give You Up + Robo's Theme from Chrono Trigger. There's so much music out there that in most cases such as these I'm inclined to believe there was no plagiaristic (is that a word?) intent.


I'm also kind of surprised at the amount of people coming out of the woodwork on here bashing Soken for older works too. I'm sure several of his tracks are intended as homages, but that doesn't make them rip-offs. For yet another comparison, it's like people calling Quentin Tarantino a plagiarist for his collages of old-school film references.

[Savagelf]

I find humor if they stole for square enix and they tried make look like over way around

[Andrea]

I find humor if they stole for square enix and they tried make look like over way around

What? Unless im stupid and cant read what you've typed, how on earth could they have stolen the song from SE lol.

Do you know what you're talking about?

[heiligeharmonie]

I'm sitting in my media law class right now, and it occurs to me that, even if Powerhouse 5000 chooses not to sue, their public statement could potentially bite them in the butt. If SE/Sokken felt the need to and could prove that Sokken did not violate copyright law, they could potentially sue Powerhouse 5000 for defamation.

A highly unlikely situation, I know, considering the complexity of both copyright and defamation cases in general (and I honestly don't think SE's reputation will be harmed enough to be provable/significant), but and interesting thought, none the less.

[Zaj_Quilos]

Why is it hard to believe Soken has never heard a song from a band i only just heard about yesterday?

[KuwabaraValefor]

Well, if it comes down to a legal dispute, I'm more than confident that Square Enix Holdings, Ltd. will settle the dispute out of court. This reminds me of the whole Vanilla Ice debacle. Anywho, personally, there's a more pressing matter in regards to Sephirot; mainly their concept of 'Normal' being on the same level as Extreme. Normal would be on the same aspect as when we fought Ifrit at 20, Titan at 34, and Garuda at 44. THAT'S Normal. They'll need to address that.

[Iromi]

Why is it hard to believe Soken has never heard a song from a band i only just heard about yesterday?

Because denial is a sign of guilt. It sounds similar enough to have drawn some influence from it. That is just me anyway. Only they know the truth.

[Dante_V]

Powerman 5000 will be wasting their time regardless. The song doesn't have an explicit likeness outside of maybe like 3 total seconds and it is one of many songs put into a patch of content. The song to my knowledge hasn't been used to promote the content and cannot even be shown to have directly profited because of that likeness. Further more you have an explicit statement in regardless to the creator never hearing it which is viable in context of being thousands of miles away from the country in which it would have had airplay. On top of all this it would be on PM5K to make the case against SE until which SE is innocent until proven otherwise. Ultimately it would be a waste of time and money on PM5K's part outside of some obscure publicity from the legal trial itself. Also the potential of a defamation suit in return exists. I doubt they would have a lawyer to pursue this and the record company likely wouldn't bother doing it either due to the profit time frame of the music being well passed due.

It's just something for the media to sensationalize and people who listen to PM5K (read as "bad music") to get up in arms about.

[Dante_V]

Because denial is a sign of guilt. It sounds similar enough to have drawn some influence from it. That is just me anyway. Only they know the truth.

It actually isn't. That's just a figure of speech which ultimately holds no objective or legal weight. It's goal is to assume guilt instead of having to prove it. In a legal context it certainly is not true. Claiming innocence cannot be legally construed as an admittance of guilt. It is against the confines of due process and American law along with basic common sense.

[Iromi]

It actually isn't.

It is. Ever seen a kid deny doing something they did? I've baby sat enough kids to see it and with my mom running a daycare..ugggh lol.

"Did you write on the wall?" "NO I DIDNT..HE DID IT!!" when I actually SAW them do it. Same thing with ex boyfriends. Caught them going thru my computer and denying it when they didn't know I was standing right behind them. It happens all the time.

Denial = first sign of guilt. Maybe you are lucky and have not experienced people who deny stuff...well, I have lol.