Problem with Duty forced into Expansion Content...

[Sweetkins]

The HW content was an overwhelming mass of questing in general for anyone who's taken a long break, who might not even have done all the lvl 50 quests and primals before quitting in the first place. I doubt it's the queueing time explicitly that frustrated the OP. Just the amount of grinding-content might or might not make you (depending on countless of variables to each and every individual person) feel like you need to rush to catch up, being a returnee. Even more so if you find yourself, in my specific situation though, to be weary of the story. Also, missing out on the initial feeling of novelty and challenge of an update is a good enough reason to be frustrated over. Can't really tell someone "they should've been faster in coming back to take part of the content" either. :P

Edit: Just wanted to add that by novelty and challenge, I mean, playing without being spoiled on what to do. Learning together with others, having fun in your own pace. Not being carried.

[ZerokoRival]

waaaaaaaa why am i forced to play with other people in a massively multiplayer online role playing game??? waaaaaaaaa

My apologies, but I wasn't aware sitting in a 40+ minute queue just to get to another hour-long queue was a good way to spend time. Considering most other world mmos don't have this same issue with the same severity, it is something of a concern.

[Critical-Limit]

The people who want gated content simply want it for the sake of their ego, so they can go "look at me, look how good I am". Thats really the only objection I\\'m hearing.

Stop using selective hearing.

I'm someone who came to the game 3 weeks after the 3.0 expansion. I work 70 hours a week. And I got from 50 to 60 in one week. And my friend who started fresh. Got to 50 in ine week unlocked DRK and got that to 60 in about a week and a half.

If you think people want to feel powerful over you with gates content well they aren't making enough threads asking for more gates.

The fights increase story appeal for MANY. And let's also think of the possibility of someone gettin to 60 on just MSQ and fates without doing a fight and tryin to que for A5.

The "gates" you complain about are so minor its hard to relate.

Like it felt infact Too easy to catch up to everyone to me.

[Sweetkins]

I doubt anyone mean to actually point any fingers here, just saying... lets try to get less personal. :< I don't want to see anyone hurt.

Edit: A reminder that the world does not revolve around one person, no matter if it's the main character of your story.

[Synrin]

My apologies, but I wasn't aware sitting in a 40+ minute queue just to get to another hour-long queue was a good way to spend time. Considering most other world mmos don't have this same issue with the same severity, it is something of a concern.

This is a seperate problem that won't be solved by removing or reducing the amount of group content throughout your main story.

[Felis]

My apologies, but I wasn't aware sitting in a 40+ minute queue just to get to another hour-long queue was a good way to spend time. Considering most other world mmos don't have this same issue with the same severity, it is something of a concern.

What dungeon or story primal give you a 1.5h queue time? If it was also during your datacentre prime time, then maybe you should just transfer to another datacentre.

[lolipuncher]

My apologies, but I wasn't aware sitting in a 40+ minute queue just to get to another hour-long queue was a good way to spend time. Considering most other world mmos don't have this same issue with the same severity, it is something of a concern.

How exactly do you think people managed in MMOs before the idea of "duty finders" was established? Oh that's right, they asked for help from the community instead of pretending an MMO is supposed to be completed solo.

[Osmond]

As a returning player, it was nice to read all the extra content added to the game after Heavensward was released. However this was short lived after I saw that you are required to complete ALL the story content FIRST before being able to venture into the new city.

Normally, this would not bother me but what is the point of making people do Duty's as part of that, NOBODY ques for Ramuh, Leviathan etc and they are absolutely what you NEED to do in order to access the expansion

Queue times currently exceeding 20 minutes is completely unacceptable as it creates a wall that does not allow returning players to experience anything new and thats if I get a queue at all, I can't advanced the story and actually get to the content that I paid for.

Make new friends to do the content w/ you? Can't really blame the devs on the long que times cause they've tried, it's gonna fall back on the community in the end cause they aren't doing it.

[Meraii]

I'm fairly new myself and I had no problem doing those trials to get to the next stage in the story. Admittedly at first I was pretty annoyed as I queued for 2 hours for one of them, but it turned out I had actually queued for Leviathan Extreme rather than Titan Hard so that was my own fault. :|

I don't think 20 minute queues is a big ask. You keep referring to WoW, and WoW has long queues too, especially if you queue for raid finder during the day on a monday or something. Also, WoW does force group content. You can't complete the last two expansions legendary quests without doing group content. You can't finish the main story without going into a raid and killing the big bad at the end of it. Even some of the daily quests required a party as you needed multiple people to summon the elites on isle of thunder for example. Speaking of the isle of thunder, you unlocked each portion as a server, so once again you were relying on others so you could see the content. Completing your class quests to get a new bit of gear involves doing dungeons...i'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that WoW doesn't force group content.

Lastly, an MMO is meant to be multiplayer. It seems you keep making threads lamenting FFXIV for what it isn't supposed to be instead of what it is.

[Sida]

The OP posted just after a fairly major patch day. While I too get into those mentioned trials often enough on trial roulette, on these last days I siply have had not time to do all roulettes I usually do due all the new stuff. As suggested earlier in the thread, in few days people get back to the old roulette chains and leveling content fills right up.