Problem with Duty forced into Expansion Content...

[ddwarbird]

As a returning player, it was nice to read all the extra content added to the game after Heavensward was released. However this was short lived after I saw that you are required to complete ALL the story content FIRST before being able to venture into the new city.

Normally, this would not bother me but what is the point of making people do Duty's as part of that, NOBODY ques for Ramuh, Leviathan etc and they are absolutely what you NEED to do in order to access the expansion

Queue times currently exceeding 20 minutes is completely unacceptable as it creates a wall that does not allow returning players to experience anything new and thats if I get a queue at all, I can't advanced the story and actually get to the content that I paid for.

I wonder if Square Enix would actually consider this in their next expansion because currently, it comes off a little rediculous that only the best players on the server who devote all their time to the game get to see the spangly new content.

[Slappah]

it comes off a little rediculous that only the best players on the server who devote all their time to the game get to see the spangly new content.

Lol

Yeahh only the elitist of the elite get to do new content

[Gralna]

Make a lvl 60 friend or two, 3 man the story content, get into ishgard within a week.

[ddwarbird]

So basically what you are saying is that I cannot play this game the actual right way and have people essentially do it for me?

[MyaValentine]

So basically what you are saying is that I cannot play this game the actual right way and have people essentially do it for me?

yes and no, basically thats how the game works "u play with people" so yeah you have to have people doing it "with you" not "for you."

as for "play this game the actual right way" I dont know when you left the game but MSQ trials werent even supposed to be challenging they where there for flashy effects good music and move on the extreme mode. so there's no "right" way to do it you are just suppose to do them and keep moving on and as for the queue times and again "the right way to do it" sorry but you are 2 years behind what did you spec? this is really old content if you want to do stuff the "right" way catch up to the new content. again just ask for help, either to your FC or other adventurers, party finder, also.... new mentor system has been implemented find a player with a crown on their name and ask for help they will aid you with whatever you need. (or at least they are supposed too) anyways gl.

[ddwarbird]

I will stick with it because I got through a lot of this game by myself and without a free company. I just do not like it when mmo's force group content onto you. WoW doesn't do it and neither does EvE or most fantasy based mmo's. I just do not think it should be embedded in requirements for the main story is all.

[Slappah]

I will stick with it because I got through a lot of this game by myself and without a free company. I just do not like it when mmo's force group content onto you. WoW doesn't do it and neither does EvE or most fantasy based mmo's. I just do not think it should be embedded in requirements for the main story is all.

Heavens forbid an mmo make you play with other people

[Jijifli]

I will stick with it because I got through a lot of this game by myself and without a free company. I just do not like it when mmo's force group content onto you. WoW doesn't do it and neither does EvE or most fantasy based mmo's. I just do not think it should be embedded in requirements for the main story is all.

Woah, working together in a MASSIVELY ONLINE MULTIPLAYER game.

This crap is why Steps got hard nerfed to the ground.

[Ryujin99]

IIRC, Square said they would be doing it differently with the next expansion in that new zones will not require story completion beyond what's required to access the 3.0 content.
Whether or not people will still have to complete all the 2.x MSQ or not to access the 4.0 zones remains to be seen, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.

ddwarbird: one of the main reasons the ability to undersize content was added was to address issues like the ones you're having. Case in point: even without people at level 60, a group of 5-7 people should be able to clear all the 2.x MSQ content using gear awarded throughout those quests (which, as I recall, constitutes fairly generous gear rewards). If combined with poetics tome drops from the instances you complete, you should be able to be in full i120 gear well before you actually complete the 2.x content. Further, adding even one level 60 person to the party will make completion that much easier.

In terms of completing content "as it was intended:" that is why SE added the minimum ilv option in duty finder since, strictly speaking, content was designed to be completed at the minimum required ilv. If your primary goal is to start into the 3.x content, then I would highly recommend you consider taking advantage of the undersize party system.

[ddwarbird]

IIRC, Square said they would be doing it differently with the next expansion in that new zones will not require story completion beyond what's required to access the 3.0 content.
Whether or not people will still have to complete all the 2.0 MSQ or not to access the 4.0 zones remains to be seen, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.

I can't see why they did not do this in the first place because, its like taking somebodies money and then saying "You can't have your item until 2 weeks later when you've done all this to prove to me that you can handle it". I personally find it a little silly.