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    The company storylines are currently strictly DoW/DoM and ranking up involves getting further into the storyline. If DoL/DoH can participate in it they would either need to make the fights as lame as the main story ones or have the non-combat option which barely ever makes sense, especially when the Empire is involved.

    This issue only affects a very small speck of the population and even less of them would be unwilling to level a battle class at all.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 09-29-2011 at 06:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    The company storylines are currently strictly DoW/DoM and ranking up involves getting further into the storyline. If DoL/DoH can participate in it they would either need to make the fights as lame as the main story ones or have the non-combat option which barely ever makes sense, especially when the Empire is involved.

    This issue only affects a very small speck of the population and even less of them would be unwilling to level a battle class at all.
    And it would have been such a time consuming task to implement an alternative means to obtain a personal chocobo? Considering they created such an intricate quest for obtaining one....oh wait, you merely buy it with seals. So, why couldn't they have just implemented a secondary way for DoH/L to obtain one, therefore, alleviating this problem altogether?

    I also really appreciate your majority rule mentality. It's always virtuous to dismiss minority views out of hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invalice_Vangaurd View Post
    And it would have been such a time consuming task to implement an alternative means to obtain a personal chocobo? Considering they created such an intricate quest for obtaining one....oh wait, you merely buy it with seals. So, why couldn't they have just implemented a secondary way for DoH/L to obtain one, therefore, alleviating this problem altogether?

    I also really appreciate your majority rule mentality. It's always virtuous to dismiss minority views out of hand.
    You have to rank up before you "merely buy it with seals"

    Glad to see that this is a virtuous discussion, about a video game!
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    And it would have been such a time consuming task to implement an alternative means to obtain a personal chocobo?
    Yes, it would have! It would mean the creation of an entirely new system, just for about 1% of the population of the game.

    No thanks. I would rather the Devs create a system that benefits 95% of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Yes, it would have! It would mean the creation of an entirely new system, just for about 1% of the population of the game.

    No thanks. I would rather the Devs create a system that benefits 95% of the game.
    Where you get the 1% from? From my eye, I saw a lot of people crafting on the street and guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Where you get the 1% from? From my eye, I saw a lot of people crafting on the street and guild.
    He is referring to players that chose to only craft and gather. Most of the crafters you see on the street and guild have battle classes probably capped even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    He is referring to players that chose to only craft and gather. Most of the crafters you see on the street and guild have battle classes probably capped even.
    Maybe they are, or maybe not. There is no way that people can prove that only 1% of pure crafters and gatherers in game, so please don't use that number unless you can provide proof to it.
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    Last edited by Norwan; 09-29-2011 at 08:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Maybe they are, or maybe not. There is no way that people can prove that only 1% of pure crafters and gatherers in game, so please don't use that number unless you can provide proof to it.
    Does it matter? The arguements have been answered now, the only use for this thread from this point on is to provide constructive ideas on what they would like to see for DoL/DoH classes regarding chocobos in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Maybe they are, or maybe not. There is no way that people can prove that only 1% of pure crafters and gatherers in game, so please don't use that number unless you can provide proof to it.
    That number represents my best estimate of how many people are in that position.

    It's a very small number, no matter whether you want to quibble or not. Because truthfully, you have to go REALLY out of your way, and make things difficult on yourself, not to have a single battle class leveled up to at least 20. You have to make a conscious effort to do so. I don't have much sympathy for folks who went so far out of their way to not participate in the vast majority of the game's content.

    And, once again, I would note that the vast, vast majority of people arguing against this requirement have combat classes leveled up. Just like yourself...

    I wanted to add, as well: did you use a bot, or multiple people playing the same account, to get r50 in so many crafts? I'm almost hoping you'll say yes; because the alternative is really depressing, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    No thanks. I would rather the Devs create a system that benefits 95% of the game.
    Remind me of this again when you can defeat Ifrit via parley...
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