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    3.2 spoilers, blah blah blah.

    It's more apparent now than ever that Nidhogg is just a lingering spirit - a true dragon, like Midgardsormr or Hraesvelgr, cannot switch between a (possessed) humanoid form and a dragon form. While dragons having a humanoid form for the ease of speaking with mortals is common in fiction, Nidhogg is the only one who displays this ability here. Whatever Nidhogg is at this point, he is not a normal dragon.

    And as always, we lack enough evidence to make an argument for or against Lahabrea still being alive within Nidhogg's eye. Until we have such evidence, given the story presents him as dead, he is dead until proven otherwise.
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    I'd argue that Lahabrea is potentially what allows Lahidhogstien to transform between forms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
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    I'd argue that Lahabrea is potentially what allows Lahidhogstien to transform between forms
    What evidence have you to support this argument?
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    Why are people still bringing up Lahabrea? By your logic, shouldn't Haldrath and Archbishop Thordan be in there too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    Why are people still bringing up Lahabrea? By your logic, shouldn't Haldrath and Archbishop Thordan be in there too?
    There is a difference. For this we shall compare and constant how we offed Narbriales and Igiyorum with how Thordian apparently offed Lahabrea

    • The common threads are that a wellspring of aether and a Blade of Light was involved, but the similarities end there
    • In the former two cases we used White Auracite to trap the Ascians in so that they wouldn't escape to the Void (or the nexus betwixt both planes) THEN we used the wellspring to make the Blade and shatter them.
    • In Lahabrea's case, Thordian transmutated Haldrath's corpse into Ascalon, with Nidhogg's eye being the wellspring. In addition, Thodian was a primal at the point, a race of godlike beings infamous for chugging down aether like they were frat boys at a college party. The Ascians are made form Aether and He did not use White Auracite. This means that Lahabrea has a sliver of a chance to retreat into the void and come back again (especially since that was exactly what happened last time he got cleaved by the Blade of Light without Auracite) Or more likely in lieu of the Auracite, the eye served the role and thus was not destroyed by The Blade.
    With the lack of a prison for Lahabrea, Thodian having the ability to siphon aether and absorb it and the wellspring being part of the blade itself being factors. It becomes apparently that there is a possibility that Lahabrea became absorbed into Nidhogg's eye, imprisoned, but not destroyed.

    Haldrath is already dead, with the eye essentially mummifying him and Thordian was a Primal and thus an inherently aetherial being. So the possibility for the latter are likely, the former is well too dead to back from the grave as a soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    What evidence have you to support this argument?
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    The purple misty aura that surrounded Estinihogg looked very familiar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
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    The purple misty aura that surrounded Estinihogg looked very familiar
    Nice try, but
    The aura surrounding Estinein-Nidhogg was red and black, as opposed to the purple and black aura associated with the Ascians. Intentionally so, as red/black is the aura that was given off by Nidhogg's disembodied eyes.

    Not at all like Ascian auras.
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    While I don't think Lahabrea himself has anything to do with Nidhogg being able to change between dragon and human (Estinien) form, I am now thinking that when he does inevitability come back he will now have a dragon form, which will make our true final confrontation with him even more epic (Not, while I say inevitability, thats mostly just because I'm sure he isn't actually dead.)
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    Regarding Nidhogg. Has anyone noticed that the Ishgardian's motives for sabotaging the peace talks is the exact same reason Nidhogg has for warring with Ishgard (and Estinien's reason for his own enmity for the malice striker)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Regarding Nidhogg. Has anyone noticed that the Ishgardian's motives for sabotaging the peace talks is the exact same reason Nidhogg has for warring with Ishgard (and Estinien's reason for his own enmity for the malice striker)?
    That's called irony. Contrary to popular belief, it's not accidental, but rather one of the best tools in a writer's arsenal when illustrating conflicts like this.

    Nidhogg's war has allowed man and dragon to find common ground, by killing each other.
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