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  1. #11
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    MrWarMachine's Avatar
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    Hatorade Black
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    Warrior Lv 68
    I don't even see why the "specialist" is necessary when the craftable three star items have such high stat requirements that the only way to even be allowed to craft them is to have the class specific crafting (two star) or red scrip gear. The class specific crafting gear is a big enough barrier for most people anyways to keep them from being omni-crafters. It would just be nice to know that with the right amount of work, I would be able to craft something I'm not specialized for. If someone is willing to invest the time and gil into getting the best crafting gear for a crafting class, they should be allowed to craft what they're gearing up for.
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    Last edited by MrWarMachine; 02-24-2016 at 10:32 PM.

  2. #12
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    Small Hobbit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I totally disagree with the idea of removing it. I think the market seems pretty fair this way.
    agree!
    i think it keep the market in balance and help that things are not sell for less than fair value, please keep that system.


    regards small hobbit =)
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  3. #13
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWarMachine View Post
    I don't even see why the "specialist" is necessary when the craftable three star items have such high stat requirements that the only way to even be allowed to craft them is to have the class specific crafting (two star) or red scrip gear.
    Initially I THOUGHT this is what they had done and went on a seriously bent mission to find out if you could hit the stats as a non-specialist and concluded the requirements were VERY stiff for non-specialist. After I found out all the recipies were locked and pretty much threw a fit, lmao.
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  4. #14
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmallHobbit View Post
    agree!
    i think it keep the market in balance and help that things are not sell for less than fair value, please keep that system.


    regards small hobbit =)
    How do you define "fair value"? A couple hundred Gil? Cost of materials, plus a little something? Ten times the cost of materials, just to ensure a profit margin? Somewhere in between?

    Do you consider it fair to reduce competition? How is that fair to the buyer, who has to pay a much higher price for the goods sought due to that lack of competition?

    Specialist-Only recipes hurt the market. They do not help the market, though they do help some to line their pockets.
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  5. #15
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    AstralKaos's Avatar
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    Sophia Aintree
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    Odin
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    But it's good for the economy! -- No, it isn't, you either have everyone flocking to the coolest of cool items locked behind specialist which then makes them be undercut to crap, or you have outrageously high prices on those that went and chose the hipster recipes, and guess what, they barely move - Which by the way, most of those on hipster specialist roles are actually alts of the previously... oh-so-horrible-omnicrafter... who funnily enough is still in his oh-so-nasty position only now he had to level an alt which he probably already had. - How is that better, enabling a few hipsters a monopoly on their limitation choice while everyone else is flooding the cool market, and to be honest how is that better than before, too, if anything it accentuates the so-called problem even more than before by introducing a whole other set of problems on top of it.

    End result at level 60 crafting: Omnicraft dude makes less money or money at a way slower rate now, and average guy makes no money or less money as before. Money in circulation is less, products being moved of value is less, saturation of items everybody chose increases and means more competition, less money again. The one plus is the one guy between them two which might make similar money as before.

    So what does this solve... nothing... at least before that one average new individual could progress to that individual omnicrafter guys character level in crafting. Now, the omnidude has leveled alts, to get to his old terribly evil demon position... so why does this system even exist if all it does is prevent everyone being on the same race track, the nasty demon violator omnidude has just made a race track alongside it to circumvent this. Anyone can do the same, but that just again begs the question... why is it here if the end result is one individual on many characters belonging to that one individual making items as opposed to what it was before one individual on one character making items.

    Apologies if that doesn't make much sense, not really good at putting thoughts and whatever into words properly... I guess.
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  6. #16
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    They removed all of the locks for 3.0 and 3.1.
    They will remove the current 3.2 locks at patch 3.3, or to be honest, whenever they dang well please.

    Functioning as designed, and I am grateful for how it works right now.
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  7. #17
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Well if they do whatever they dang please rather than what players actually have fun doing... they'll end up with less players overall. 2.x also functioned as designed... without specialist.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Well if they do whatever they dang please rather than what players actually have fun doing... they'll end up with less players overall. 2.x also functioned as designed... without specialist.
    And functioned absolutely fine, I might add.

    If they actually made the specialist thing what it was originally purposed for instead of what it ended up being, things would be better for everyone, literally.
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  9. #19
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    They removed all of the locks for 3.0 and 3.1.
    Functioning as designed, and I am grateful for how it works right now.
    Indeed, by making them overpriced as hell in the MB and the general buyer don't being able to buy it. The way I see is a stagnated market for months or the game flood with RTM in next days.
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  10. #20
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by AstralKaos View Post
    And functioned absolutely fine, I might add.
    As does the current system. Some people are unwilling to adapt to change, and therefore will be unable to keep up.

    It is a clear choice.

    Those who are willing to properly adapt will be the new true omnicrafters.
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