Goodbye strength tanks. Let us never be forgotten.

[Saint_Angeles]

Funny you should say that as when talking about un-equipping your job stone you told me this.



So for Job stones its ok to gimp yourself, but for gear its not?

You also claimed that people would start vote kicking people due to gear not meeting standards..but here you are calling every strength tank bad...?

[l---------------l]

Hi. I was a STR tank since.... MY FIRST MONTH IN GAME!.... (2.1! )

People back then was like... "WTF, our tank is full STR, look at that low vit, we are all doomed!"... (They thought it meant to have more defense or only Hydaelin knows what.)

I'll miss STR, goodbye, my dear...

Now, I won't be able to know which tanks are newbie just by checking their accessories
Now, I won't share accessories with my monk and dragoon anymore... Those lovely -for-5-job-accesories...
Now, I won't be able to carry as I did before this, and to push up things when the DPS were just 2.0 powered despite being in 3.1 content.
Now, I won't feel I'm going risky and I'll have to supply my lack of vit with skill and knowledge for tank killers, it doesn't matter, I'll have....Lots of VIT.

Because tanks are supposed to be tanking not DPSing and to use STR gear instead of VIT gear is gimping their HP on purpose and being rude to other players they queue with and making it harder for healers to keep them alive because their HP pools are smaller then the dps. At that point might as well just get rid of the tank and add a third real dps.

Having more DPS than the proper DPS is not added to the list?... Oh, and... .In a dungeon is not that it really matters to have 2k less HP or more. Only to have DPS and aggro better. (Aggro better = more room to DPS)

[FeliAiko]

The mentality of maximising DPS as a Tank isn't going to disappear in 3.2, so to those who disliked STR Tanks in general you're still going to have to deal with people dropping Tank stance as soon as they feasibly can anyway.

[CGMidlander]

Because tanks are supposed to be tanking not DPSing and to use STR gear instead of VIT gear is gimping their HP on purpose and being rude to other players they queue with and making it harder for healers to keep them alive because their HP pools are smaller then the dps. At that point might as well just get rid of the tank and add a third real dps.

Except, it's not harder (in the context of non-savage instances), if the tank and healer even remotely know what they're doing. The crux of your argument is untrue.

[Saint_Angeles]

People back then was like... "WTF, our tank is full STR, look at that low vit, we are all doomed!"...

Like people whose PTSD flares up when (Cleric Stance) pops on screen.

[CaladS]

haha this thread has so many salty DPS rubbing their hands together at the prospect of being the highest dps in their important expert roulettes once again.

Just remember that you're gunna have to step your dps up now. You too healers! No more dots without cleric and hoping nobody noticed

But yeah. RIP Str tanks. Was nice while it lasted.

[Edewen]

The mentality of maximising DPS as a Tank isn't going to disappear in 3.2, so to those who disliked STR Tanks in general you're still going to have to deal with people dropping Tank stance as soon as they feasibly can anyway.

Which is fine. Because that is a skill thing. Mid fight stance swapping to prevent the big hit is a completely different situation because it evolves with the fight itself. Str gear was the equivalent of walking into a duty finder group and telling healers "git gud cause ima dps". What you do in a static is all on you, but str tanking became the only way to do things that it started bleeding down to the leveling classes. And not sure if have healed a dps try hard in scaled dungeons for leveling, but they don't even leave time to lay down a round of dots before the healer needs to panic.

[karateorangutang]

I think having a raid-wide threat meter (rather than just party-wide, or at least one that shows the top 8 threat generators) would go a long way in alleviating the problem you're describing. It is difficult to tell what game the other tanks are playing on any given run, and I'm sure nearly every tank that has stepped into Void Ark (or any other 24 man raid) has found themselves wondering "what are the odds that all the other tanks here aren't going to be #$%hats?" before the petri-dish walls vanished.

Exactly, its not gear. It's the meta, poor communication, and the game structure itself. If anyone thinks that a set of jewelry is going to make that go away, then they are simply deluded.

[CaedemSanguis]

Its normal to switch in dps stance as a tank. That means that you know perfectly your job.

[FinalWolf]

haha this thread has so many salty DPS rubbing their hands together at the prospect of being the highest dps in their important expert roulettes once again.

Just remember that you're gunna have to step your dps up now. You too healers! No more dots without cleric and hoping nobody noticed

But yeah. RIP Str tanks. Was nice while it lasted.

I've seen dragoons go through an entire dungeon without using heavy thrust so no