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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready View Post
    People will buddy up and just never use the marketboard, instead colluding to keep their craft costs down while keeping their craft purchase prices high. Or the hardcore-est will just create alts. Then you're back to square one in regards to "true" omni-crafters, except now the barriers-to-entry are much higher, and "casual" specialists will never be able to compete with their prices.
    Buddying up is a part of trade, and is part of a healthy economy. Before, there was no reason to do so. Now there is. This is an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Buddying up is a part of trade, and is part of a healthy economy. Before, there was no reason to do so. Now there is. This is an improvement.
    Collusion usually doesn't lead to a healthy economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready View Post
    Collusion usually doesn't lead to a healthy economy.
    It isn't collusion, it's trade. And if they're keeping their costs down, then prices are going to go down because things won't be selling, down to the point where they will sell. Which is... exactly what you said is a healthy economy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    It isn't collusion, it's trade. And if they're keeping their costs down, then prices are going to go down because things won't be selling, down to the point where they will sell. Which is... exactly what you said is a healthy economy?
    Well for one, it totally is collusion to buddy up to avoid competition. Second, prices will remain artificially inflated if there's no competition, due to collusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready View Post
    Well for one, it totally is collusion to buddy up to avoid competition. Second, prices will remain artificially inflated if there's no competition, due to collusion.
    First of all, you can't buddy up to avoid competition when your competition is the entire world. This is not collusion, unless if you can get everyone to agree to join.

    Prices will not remain inflated, because there will always be competition. If people are avoiding buying things from the market board, then those things will have to lower their price. If those prices are not low enough to compete with your so-called collusion, they won't sell. They won't sell until prices reach a competitive point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    First of all, you can't buddy up to avoid competition when your competition is the entire world. This is not collusion, unless if you can get everyone to agree to join.

    Prices will not remain inflated, because there will always be competition. If people are avoiding buying things from the market board, then those things will have to lower their price. If those prices are not low enough to compete with your so-called collusion, they won't sell. They won't sell until prices reach a competitive point.
    Your competition isn't the entire world though. People will just cease to trade outside their circle while keeping MB prices up for those not in any circles. While that's happening you have the true omni-crafters with alts who you can never really compete with in price on your own any ways.

    That doesn't sound like a healthy economy to me - that sounds like the game becoming even less social.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready View Post
    While that's happening you have the true omni-crafters with alts who you can never really compete with in price on your own any ways.
    So the omnicrafters are selling for such razor thin profits that you can't compete, yet the prices are horrifically inflated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Buddying up is a part of trade, and is part of a healthy economy. Before, there was no reason to do so. Now there is. This is an improvement.
    We call that cartels. Great for healthy economies.
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