So are consoles holding back this game?

[Laraul]

nobody is really sure what will happen if the PS3 gets dropped (i don't want it to but its likely to happen by as early as 4.0) also 1.0 was very poorly optimized with common PCs struggling to run it.

When 1.0 shipped it had very steep hardware requirements. The recommended specs were an Intel Core i7 @ 2.66 GHz (or better) and an GTX 460 w/ 768MB RAM, which would get you at least 30 fps @ 1280x720. The GTX 400 series had been launched just months before the game's launch. It wasn't poorly optimized. Rather it was intended to be run on very high end desktop machines less than a year old when it first came out. Perhaps they saw posts with wild hardware requirements and thought that pretty graphics would blind us.

The 1.0 developer's philosophy behind FFXIV was that any problem can be solved thru updates and patches. Something they learned over the time as they worked on FFXI. Unfortunately they ignored the changes made to the genre over they eight years since the launch of FFXI in 2002. It had evolved subsequently since then. The development team did not. Except when it came to graphics of course.

[Laraul]

No way PS4 is holding anything back, it must be an opinion.
Silky smooth unstable 20-40 fps.
Not saying PS4 support should be dropped, but don't be delusional.

Where are you getting your numbers? Maybe 20-40 fps out in the open world. But dungeon/trials/raids are more like 40-60 fps.

[Kosmos992k]

ok this talk is just silly if you cancel the ancient ps3 then i say shut game down a year and redesign the whole game engine to maximize the actual maximun potential of ps4/pc.


Its already happend once btw for this game to work with ps3 and all.....

No need, the game engine is scalable, which is why PS3 looks so crap played along side the latest gaming rig.

[KfLeX]

I just want my outdoor hot tub.

[Phyllo]

don't start me on the V1, Yoshida already spend countless hours to explain how it did happend. multiple language of programation, bad choice for the graphical engine.... it was a mess, that not without reason they had to rebuild the game from the ground.

and i will not bet on the 4.0 on the ps3... Yoshida have often said it... he can only promise to bring the first expansion for the ps3 after this, he refuse to hold back the game for a machine that old.

More like they already confirmed in a live letter that PS3 will be dropped at 4.0

[AlphaFox]

While I admit it would be nice to see lesser hardware removed, I still have some doubts deep down that any major changes are going to come of it. Hopefully I get proven wrong but how I feel at the moment.

[Lexia]

ok this talk is just silly if you cancel the ancient ps3 then i say shut game down a year and redesign the whole game engine to maximize the actual maximun potential of ps4/pc.


Its already happend once btw for this game to work with ps3 and all.....

They already mention that the PS3 will be dropped at some point in the future. Even going as far as putting a time frame on it saying there wouldn't guarantee that 4.0 would be released on PS3. Also doubt they going to rework anything when that happens.

[Defias]

your friends fc mates were going to take him thru coil synced then? sure .
edit again- just in case you try to change the story, they wanted the bonus tomes.
edit- looking again, the group wouldnt even need your friend to do anything.
please notice that separating the player base is a bad idea.

Actually the Trophy need you to have synced clears of T1-T5. Unless they patched that. I tried T5 unsynced and my trophy didn't pop until I did a synced clear.
(Cost me all my [expletive] gil too. 10mil)
And yes they wanted the bonus. Hence why I was so baffled. I guess the bonus wasn't worth the stress of taking a newbie through it.

It's his FC not mine. I avoid FCs like the black death.

You believe it is a bad idea. Your opinion is noted.
I assume you want to trade blows until I say: "I am wrong and you are right." am I correct in that assumption?

It will not happen. I stand by my opinion.

[Recaldy]

I'd say its a mix of PS3 and dev team. If the PS3 went...then the dev team would need some changes to meet the new glass ceiling of content. Aside from a small handfull of boss fights...things are pretty mediocre. Hear every so often about what Yoshida wants in the game but can't due to dev team situation.

[Kaze3434]

Actually the Trophy need you to have synced clears of T1-T5. Unless they patched that. I tried T5 unsynced and my trophy didn't pop until I did a synced clear.
(Cost me all my [expletive] gil too. 10mil)
And yes they wanted the bonus. Hence why I was so baffled. I guess the bonus wasn't worth the stress of taking a newbie through it.

It's his FC not mine. I avoid FCs like the black death.

You believe it is a bad idea. Your opinion is noted.
I assume you want to trade blows until I say: "I am wrong and you are right." am I correct in that assumption?

It will not happen. I stand by my opinion.

part of why this idea is bad has to do with the servers themselves. its not likely, but say in my server cluster there was only 1000 ps3/4 players. you have now made it nigh impossible to play the game at the most basic level.the only way this idea would have worked is if it was that way from the start.
you keep saying that you know doing this would make queue times longer, and make it harder to do content, both things that should throw up flags that its not something that should be done. i have no idea how you think something like that is a good idea so "console players can just play the game". of the console players i have run into, maybe 4 have been kicked from a party i have been in, not because they were on console, but because they as a player were bad.

also, the trophy doesnt require you to be synced, and only requires T5 to be beaten.