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  1. 02-21-2016 06:00 AM #21
    Bernkastelx
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    Wait are you telling me people use shadewalker on other things besides getting the healer killed?
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  2. 02-21-2016 06:01 AM #22
    DarkerOrange
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    Yea, using it to troll hunts is also fun :P
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  3. 02-21-2016 10:08 PM #23
    Venom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    I guess they go to give MNK players some shine, since many people always say that MNK brings no utility to raids outside of raw damage.
    Disagree, what about Dragon Kick lowering INT 10%. A lot of T13 parties would not have cleared it as early as they did without it, however I doubt a bit of enmity management or trick attack will change anything... Monk is going to be chosen over Ninja in every circumstances that big magic attacks can be debuffed... Monk also have Mantra, VERY useful. I know it is cross class but Monk gets some abilities from other jobs too. To say Monk has no utility is garbage. I agree with OP. Ninja needs a buff, when I see Dragoon or Monk on YouTube the difference is unreal and ignored.
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  4. 02-21-2016 10:19 PM #24
    DarkerOrange
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    DRK now get the INT debuff too, so that is no longer counted for MNK utility.
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  5. 02-22-2016 01:01 AM #25
    Venom
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    DRK now get the INT debuff too, so that is no longer counted for MNK utility.
    Machinist now get MP restore so Mages Ballad no longer is counted for BRD utility, you see the broken logic there?
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  6. 02-22-2016 01:10 AM #26
    Judge_Xero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    Machinist now get MP restore so Mages Ballad no longer is counted for BRD utility, you see the broken logic there?
    The idea is that if you have DRK you don't need MNK so yeah if you have BRD you don't also need a MCH in the party or vice versa.
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  7. 02-22-2016 01:12 AM #27
    Judge_Xero
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    Sorry for the double post.

    I think the idea for the MNK buffs is for
    PLD/MNK = DRK/NIN anyway.
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  8. 02-22-2016 01:39 AM #28
    Ragology
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    They couldn't make Ninja a tank like in the last game, but at least it has great synergy with tanks.
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  9. 02-22-2016 02:14 AM #29
    Aomine1992
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    Nin is great in raid content or trials but when it comes to any kind of aoe tuh lol you would be better off with any other class the only cd I dislike is duality but it's not that big of a deal...MNK has nothing to offer but dmg so might as well buff that so they don't become totally useless
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  10. 02-22-2016 02:18 PM #30
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    You have the most support of all the melee, you don't need DPS. Your enmity skills allow for higher overall group DPS.
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