Removing Ranks for newer gear.

[Knahli]

I think the new PvP gear is all really unappealing so personally I don't really care about people getting it easily on that level.

However.

I know what it's like to have spent months and months and months queuing and queuing for PvP games that, while enjoyable, were nowhere near being worth the queue times in terms of getting a return for the time wasted while waiting for a match... and finally getting an exclusive set that you really invested a lot of time into achieving, only to have SE unexpectedly and arbitrarily remove the rank restrictions and throw all of that time and effort spent right back into my face.
So I'm sorry, but personally I don't support this idea either. Should there be anyone out there who also decided to work up from the ground just to get any of these new sets for nothing more than glamour purposes, I am in no rush to see their efforts also refuted for the sake of people who were unwilling to invest the time whatsoever.

Given the queue times, these high rank restrictions should arguably have never existed in the first place however. I'll give you that.

[Kallistra]

Except, if I didn't PvP at all I wouldn't have ANY of the gear in the first place. Thus your subject matter fails completely.

If I didn't grind out items for a relic, I wouldn't have a relic.
If I didn't run Alex Savage I wouldn't have the i210 gear I have now.

[Selli]

Except, if I didn't PvP at all I wouldn't have ANY of the gear in the first place. Thus your subject matter fails completely.

Bolding and increasing the font size doesn't make your point valid at all. At this point I am just repeating myself, so I'm going to say this in a way I hope you understand.

Anyone can earn Wolf Marks, you just have to be present in a Wolves' Den or Frontlines match, but by doing the content again and again you gain experience. Not just EXP experience, but playstyle experience. If you have not earned enough of that playstyle experience, then you do not deserve the rewards given to the end game players of said content. This applies to both PvP and PvE.

With that, I am done with this thread, good luck with whatever you do. You'll need it.

[myahele]

Well looks like OP got his wish granted coming this 3.2 patch. A shame, I was sure they'd remove rank requirements next expansion like they did.

I guess all people need to do is just wait ~ 2 patch cycles for them to remove the requirement.

[Februs]

Well looks like OP got his wish granted coming this 3.2 patch. A shame, I was sure they'd remove rank requirements next expansion like they did.

I guess all people need to do is just wait ~ 2 patch cycles for them to remove the requirement.

They're also adding new gear with the new patch. They said they're removing ranks restriction for the 180 gear, but they didn't say anything about the 205 gear that they are adding. That leads me to assume that the newest gear is going to also be rank locked ... meaning the OP will have something new to bitch about and we'll see another thread just like this in a couple of weeks.

[myahele]

They're also adding new gear with the new patch. They said they're removing ranks restriction for the 180 gear, but they didn't say anything about the 205 gear that they are adding. That leads me to assume that the newest gear is going to also be rank locked ... meaning the OP will have something new to bitch about and we'll see another thread just like this in a couple of weeks.

Just wait a few months and the new gear's rank will be unlocked for all.

[Dimitrii]

Just wait a few months and the new gear's rank will be unlocked for all.

They do this with PVE gear as well, whats the difference? Old gear is always unlocked when new stuff is out. Don't see the community complaining about how ilvl 210 will be faceroll easy to achieve this update in PVE.

[Evangela]

Rank requirements never should have been removed, from all PvP gears. It's fine to reduce the price but removing the rank requirements make them lose their uniqueness.

Seeing some PvP newbies who have done around 10 PvP matches wearing the same thing I spent months to earn is disappointing me.

[Grux]

Rank requirements never should have been removed, from all PvP gears. It's fine to reduce the price but removing the rank requirements make them lose their uniqueness.

Seeing some PvP newbies who have done around 10 PvP matches wearing the same thing I spent months to earn is disappointing me.

It's disappointing all of us who spent the time actually wanting to achieve something pvp wise.

Seal rock lasts for 20mins per game.
Leveling to 50 takes about 200-300 Frontline games.

To add to that, if you belong to the underdog GC, you'll take more games to reach max.

Just do the math.
Whatever they're smoking, I want some.

[Nalien]

They do this with PVE gear as well, whats the difference?

Do they?

PvP Rank is effectively your PvP level. Case and point, the higher your PvP Rank, the more AP you have, the stronger your PvP actions are. The higher your PvP Rank, the stronger you become in PvP.

When have they ever gone "You know what? This awesome piece of Lv50 gear should be available to brand new players too!"?

Someone who is Rank 2 in PvP should not be wearing Rank 50 PvP gear, in the same way someone who is Lv2 should not be wearing High Allagan stuff... Was bad enough when some tank body gear dropped in Diadem, and I tried it on only to see it was Armor of the Behemoth King... I know random models was the whole point of Diadem, but come on! Why do we even need to remove the Rank requirement with that in mind? This shit has already lost its uniqueness thanks to Diadem. PvP gear in general is just a massive mess at this point, no idea what they're doing with it or why they felt the need to add more to it... I can only imagine they've done this just to cave in to demands for newbs to have the Lv60 sets, so they had to add new Lv60 sets for the Rank 50s, apparently ignoring the fact that those same newbs are now going to complain about these sets being gated behind Rank 50 (or are they adding new Ranks?). They're just making matters worse, this is an all or nothing scenario, either you're Rank 50 and get the sets, or you're not and you complain... At least when everything had a Rank requirement, there was some semblance of progression; You got this set at Rank 30, this set at Rank 40, and so on. Now they just add new sets for people to complain about being gated behind Rank 50, or worse add new Ranks for people to complain about being too much of a grind (when it really isn't).

When PvP gear actually did something, this was a valid concern, but PvP gear doesn't do anything anymore... It's vanity gear, and you're just cheapening its value by removing any effort in its acquisition. Nobody wins in this scenario... The short sighted idiots who complained about this might think they're getting something, but they're just going to move on to complaining about the new set soon enough... Whatever though, Diamond Rank gear is going to be a thing... Hopefully you don't screw that over...