3.2 Patch Notes

[Odett]

A healer shouldn't need to dps in fights unless that mechanic allows them eg Ravana ex during Lib cast when hes red..if a healer has to dps, then the dps are not doing their job properly...

I want to get the words "there is no such thing as a cap on DPS, more DPS is always good" tattooed across my chest

[ScarletDawn]

I want to get the words "there is no such thing as a cap on DPS, more DPS is always good" tattooed across my chest

This is true but a healers main role is the health and well being of the party members their first priority is keeping everyone topped up with most of the fights now having large aoe burst damage, a healer dpsing is not an option...maybe during the bits of fights where the boss is not dealing massive spike damage the healer can dps.

Like i said like in Ravana ex or Final coil...not in every fight, a healer should not be kicked from a party because they did little to no dps.

[Warlyx]

I want to get the words "there is no such thing as a cap on DPS, more DPS is always good" tattooed across my chest

u can change that 3 letters for another 3 and u will be the king on the beach , or pools :P ....but ....Saunas tooo :/ hahahahah

[PArcher]

I want to get the words "there is no such thing as a cap on DPS, more DPS is always good" tattooed across my chest

Extra DPS to speed things up is always nice.

However, healers *needing* to DPS to pass checks or to kill things in a reasonable amount on time...should not be a thing (outside of the cutting edge of early progression raiding). Same for tanks. And you see this too often. DPS really do need to stop being so damn lazy and do their job.

[Odett]

Extra DPS to speed things up is always nice.

However, healers *needing* to DPS to pass checks or to kill things in a reasonable amount on time...should not be a thing (outside of the cutting edge of early progression raiding). Same for tanks. And you see this too often. DPS really do need to stop being so damn lazy and do their job.

Oh, yeah, don't get me wrong, I definitely agree with this. At the same time, however, I'm not going to lower my DPS on purpose, or flat-out refuse to DPS (as long as you have the opportunity for it of course, without placing the party in danger) just because someone in a group isn't pulling their weight. If a wipe messy run or wipe occurs, however, due to a messup in the DPS department outside of cutting-edge content, I agree that it is mainly the damage dealers' issue.

[Warlyx]

Extra DPS to speed things up is always nice.

However, healers *needing* to DPS to pass checks or to kill things in a reasonable amount on time...should not be a thing (outside of the cutting edge of early progression raiding). Same for tanks. And you see this too often. DPS really do need to stop being so damn lazy and do their job.

in cutting edge raids.... ppl arent lazy :/ , just not geared enough to make the dps check , so tank and healers dpsing help push that phase or kill the boss. Lazy dps dont make it pass DF raids...no1 will want a lazy dps...nor heal or tank for that matter

and once geared or on farm ....both tanks and healers deal even more dmg , since u know the encounter and tanks dont take as much dmg as before and your heals heal for more so letting a tank drop to 7k is ok since u only need 2 heals to top ...when before u needed 3 before tank buster ect

[Eidolon]

in cutting edge raids.... ppl arent lazy :/ , just not geared enough to make the dps check , so tank and healers dpsing help push that phase or kill the boss. Lazy dps dont make it pass DF raids...no1 will want a lazy dps...nor heal or tank for that matter

they admitted that "outside of the cutting edge of early progression raiding", which ideally is the only place you should have required healer dps. I think they were pretty fair in their statement. And yea I agree with both of you - DPS can be lazy in some post-cutting edge raids because they know healers will compensate for them.

[Odett]

they admitted that "outside of the cutting edge of early progression raiding", which ideally is the only place you should have required healer dps. I think they were pretty fair in their statement. And yea I agree with both of you - DPS can be lazy in some post-cutting edge raids because they know healers will compensate for them.

"Required" or not, it's still lazy to just stand there for 5+ seconds in content where high DPS isn't required. I'll leave it at that, because this discussion has been regurgitated again and again, but I think that at the very least, we can all agree that just because something isn't forcibly required of you, doesn't mean we still shouldn't do it if it's going to positively affect the rest of the group.

As usual the patch praises slackers and punishes people for even trying. Nothing changed. Look at the notes red script items will drop from dungeons now? Whats the point of people trying to acheive something for their crafting jobs again if you are gonna give everything as a handout to people? I'm playing FFXIV A Communism Reborn rather than playing a game that can gave some sort of competition and you get rewarded for putting effort in and doing stuff. Its really sad to this that so many people accept this bogus carrot stick mentality of gaming.

I play mostly to hang out with my friends on all 3 servers I have chars in. The community is amazing gameplay decisions are horrible and will continue to be like this until we as players stop accepting this garbage.

"Things that were harder to get when they were first released eventually become easier to get over time. More obvious MMO news at 11, right after Angry Man Yells at Clouds."

[Warlyx]

More obvious MMO news at 11, right after Angry Man Yells at Clouds."

[Spawnie]

haha was waiting for some1 to post that after i read the comment :P