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    I don't see anything wrong with invisible weapons, while it'll look strange, it's not *too* far out regarding lore. In the end, it's glamour; meaning, the base item is just taking up the appearance of ___ over it. The base item is still there ... just glamoured.

    Unless I am mistaken in how glamour (in the world of FF14 not just glamour prisms) work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with invisible weapons, while it'll look strange, it's not *too* far out regarding lore. In the end, it's glamour; meaning, the base item is just taking up the appearance of ___ over it. The base item is still there ... just glamoured.

    Unless I am mistaken in how glamour (in the world of FF14 not just glamour prisms) work.
    They would have to change some of the animations as they would look silly, i mean take a black mage for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    The base item is still there ... just glamoured.

    Unless I am mistaken in how glamour (in the world of FF14 not just glamour prisms) work.
    In a way, you're right. The whole glamour thing is just casting an illusion on the gear you're using to make it look like something else. Hence why bikini tanks can still take as much damage without going splat as a tincan tank. Does it look weird? Yes. Will it disturb people? Yes. Will it disturb the enemy, seeing their thrust to an "unprotected" belly go clank! and not even scratch the skin? Sadly no ;_; It should.

    And from a combat standpoint, it would make equal sense to make your weapon invisible -- the enemy wouldn't be able to predict where the point of your weapon is unless they were really, really, really good.

    To make this game more realistic (keeping the 'fantasy' setting in mind, of course) and immersive, ridiculous or half-naked glamours should give a bonus to attack and defence for the first X seconds of a fight, due to the enemy being so shocked at your appearance. And glamouring on an invisible weapon on a weapon with more reach than fists/knives should also provide a bonus to attack and parry (or block in case of shields), since the enemy wouldn't be able to predict its location as easily. To make things fair, it should also give a penalty to attack and defence to your team mates unless they also have the glamour buff, because they'll be equally distracted by your appearance, and/or worrying about your life and sanity.

    Will we get that? No. Because it would be really, really tricky to program in a system that checks whether your glamour is 'appropriate' or not. And because everyone would utilize that in order to get the buff, which in a fairly short amount of time would lead to the enemies becoming immune to it because it's so commonplace.

    And because most people don't seem to remember that your glamoured outfit is an illusion (based on the comments to "lightly clad" people in Coerthas/Snowcloak, and 'muh immersion' complaints regarding bikini/snowman tanks), SE will keep implementing glamour items and weapons based on how reasonable they would be as actual equipment, and not as illusions ^^;

    (Thanks for reading my long ramble.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoroushSensei View Post
    If it looked like that, I would be all for it.

    As for the hidden shield...it would require new animations or it would just look silly, as the left hand would still be miming like it was holding a shield, and with the current animation set if the effect wasn't similar to the above where you have a sort translucent effect (so graphically it appears during various ability animations) it would just end up looking silly instead of cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    If it looked like that, I would be all for it.

    As for the hidden shield...it would require new animations or it would just look silly, as the left hand would still be miming like it was holding a shield, and with the current animation set if the effect wasn't similar to the above where you have a sort translucent effect (so graphically it appears during various ability animations) it would just end up looking silly instead of cool.
    Wouldn't it just look like a pimp slap





    Gods I want an invisible shield Dx
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoroushSensei View Post
    This exactly!

    See, I don't see where folks are getting that this will break immersion or look silly. No one is asking for the various sword related ability/spell effects to be invisible. As far as the actual blade, it could be translucent or blurry.

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    I want people to stop suggesting anime glamours.

    Too much of a dream? Okay
    *Sigh* Askaray, are you really complaining about people wanting anime glamours in a MMO where most of the game design is anime based?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    *Sigh* Askaray, are you really complaining about people wanting anime glamours in a MMO where most of the game design is anime based?
    Yep


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    Glamour is TRUE ENDGAME

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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Yep


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