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  1. #41
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Incorrect, there are accuracy caps outside of the content you mention. It has been discussed quite a bit both here & elsewhere that the lack of acc on healer gear is becoming a detriment, even in relatively "low" level dungeons like Neverreap.
    I did say "unless they changed it".

    I wonder what the new cap is for regular dungeons, and if they will continue to increase it passively to force healer stop dps because it wouldn't matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    It really isn't apples and oranges, nor is it a very logical explanation about healer DPS when Astro and Scholar each have DPS skills that are 100% hit rate and do not have accuracy requirements.
    this is because those skills don't have initial damage and thus aren't affected by accuracy and evasion. Yeah it looks like an oversight. But realistically, if the accuracy cap was at a point that healers would miss 99% of their spells, the dps gained from SCH and AST guaranteed spells would be meaningless
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 02-19-2016 at 06:00 PM.

  2. #42
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    Roland Starwind
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    Please please please for the love of god I hope they add an accuracy bonus to Cleric's Stance. It's frustrating doing lvl 50 dungeons and missing spells because there's no accuracy on the 3.0+ healer gear anymore as well.
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  3. #43
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    It really isn't apples and oranges, nor is it a very logical explanation about healer DPS when Astro and Scholar each have DPS skills that are 100% hit rate and do not have accuracy requirements.
    They have skills that have 100% hit rate because of the design of the system. It's a side-effect, not intended. Those particular skills aren't technically "skills" because they don't do damage directly. They are status effects. It just so happens the status that is applied deals damage over time, but the ability itself is treated as a debuff more than a damage skill. That's why the ACC system ignores it on the server-side. It sees a debuff being cast, not a damage skill.
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  4. #44
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    Thea Sitori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    They have skills that have 100% hit rate because of the design of the system. It's a side-effect, not intended.
    Not intended, since when did you know the developers intentions and why have they allowed this to last for over 2 years? See they can easily drop the accuracy of the dot. Just like Aero 2 and Miasma isn't a guaranteed hit and are subject to accuracy requirements.
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    Cleric Stance is fine where it is.
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    Last edited by TheWaywardWind; 02-20-2016 at 12:52 PM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Not intended, since when did you know the developers intentions and why have they allowed this to last for over 2 years? See they can easily drop the accuracy of the dot. Just like Aero 2 and Miasma isn't a guaranteed hit and are subject to accuracy requirements.
    Reading comprehension is definitely a skill that shouldn't ignore accuracy :P
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Reading comprehension is definitely a skill that shouldn't ignore accuracy :P
    First, you say healers aren't designed to DPS, then the perfect accuracy skills get brought up. Oh, it's an oversight because of how the system is designed. Never mind they could have adjusted the system anytime they want to make no initial DoT potency, not 100% accurate. The Astro job could have been designed with only aspected damage like White Mage Aero skills that can miss, instead of two new unaspected damage skills. It's not an oversight. You can come up with theories all you want, but the fact remains there are damage skills that are 100% accurate.

    Either way I already explained my rationale way earlier in the thread about healer accuracy in-detail.
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    Last edited by technole; 02-21-2016 at 01:14 AM.

  8. #48
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    X'shtola Abba
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    I guessing you can do some fixes to accuracy now that you can meld materia into Raid gear.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    I'm pretty sure they said they're doing something in regards to healer accuracy...


    Hmmm. I'll try and find it.
    They said they would if it looked again like the need was there. ...but that was before announcing raid/tome gear will be meldable and I'm betting they'll excuse themselves out of adding it "because those interested can meld it now".
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    Healers are kinda getting that Mad Max: Fury Road treatment, right? But they're getting milked for healing instead of, uh, milk. (That was such a weird movie.)
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    Last edited by Galgarion; 02-23-2016 at 03:07 PM.

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