Join in progress should probably join a party in progress?

[pikster]

So last night, im on my DPS and I start getting my roulette's done. I got for leveling roulette, I have join in progress ticked because I like to live dangerously.

I got Tam Tara NM, nice and easy, but there was no healer either. So I got my wife to come and heal it for us, she selected Leveling roulette, all languages and in progress, que popped instantly for a new dungeon, not ours. The only way she could get into ours was queing Tam Tara directly, not as part of the roulette and selecting in progress.

Later that same night, we both DPS, 50 Roulette, Tam Tara HM, Tank is WaaaaaaaaaY too skilled for this dungeon and refuses to do anything asking to be kicked, we wait for him to drop so he can take his penalty (because if you do that its what you deserve). Healer is new to the dungeon, I say NP I'll tank it for us to get us through it, leave, select roulette in progress, only gives me a fresh dungeon, have to select Tam Tara Hm on its own to get in.

So why is this being so inconsistent? It let me in the first one in progress just fine when it had no healer, so why be a pain when the healer wants to come in? The guys have waited way longer than anyone else in the que to get a full party...

[Jetstream_Fox]

It has to do with the algorithm they use to match a player. For whatever reason the new system that shows how long the run has been going on is less helpful verse the old one that showed how many people are currently in progress.

[Pells]

Join in progress lets you join a party in progress, but it doesn't prioritize it. You'll still go to whoever's been in the queue longer.

For in-progress, you join the queue when the party leader clicks the button to replace missing party members. It isn't based on how long you've already been in the dungeon.
This is why the roulette is very likely to just pair you with a new dungeon, since some of the dps in there are likely upwards of 20+ min wait.
If someone has queued for a specific dungeon, in-progress will also pair you with them in a new dungeon before it will let you join the party in progress, if they were queued first.

[Ashkendor]

Yeah... JIP should get priority imo, but maybe it's just me...

[SpiritMuse]

Why would you queue for the whole roulette if you're trying to get into one specific dungeon? Of course that's gonna match you up with something different. If only because there's a good chance you're not the only dungeon needing in progress joiners.

[pikster]

Its not unreasonable to think that someone who is helping you out by joining in progress and effectively bailing the party out of a bad situation should maybe get the reward from doing a roulette instead of just queing the dungeon and getting no benefit.

JIP should get priority if its ticked is all...

[Yasminou]

It has to do with the algorithm they use to match a player. For whatever reason the new system that shows how long the run has been going on is less helpful verse the old one that showed how many people are currently in progress.

The old display was not how many people were in the party, it was how many objectives in the duty were fulfilled (except 24-man raids where it was always 0/1). For instance a display of 1/3 meant 1 achieved goal over 3, i.e. in general, first boss killed.

[Felis]

Its not unreasonable to think that someone who is helping you out by joining in progress and effectively bailing the party out of a bad situation should maybe get the reward from doing a roulette instead of just queing the dungeon and getting no benefit.

JIP should get priority if its ticked is all...

It is also not unreasonable to think that you would get not the wanted dungeon in progress if you increase the selection of potential dungeons with the roulette instead of keeping the potential as low as possible with selecting only the specific dungeon.
Also don't select the languages that are not present in the party.

[Lukha]

It actually really bugs me that there isn't a way to invite someone into or select a specific in-progress instance to join. It's one of the many little things about this game that seem to almost actively discourage socialization.

[MagiusNecros]

Join party in progress should bring up a list of instances looking for members and list the player names and respective classes, that way you see party composition and best make an informed decision on what to bring to the party. Or join a buddy. But apparently nothing can be that simple.