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  1. #71
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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    As someone who actually killed AS3 as an astro and understands what you are talking about, I shall help.

    First, the dps rotation of say a Paladin is less threat than a threat rotation. So reducing your agro can help them do more dps.
    Second, If your doing all the aoe healing, your doing it wrong. The Other healer (who should be a sch idealy), should be doing very specific heals to reduce the amount of aoe healing you need to do, while also allowing you to stance and dps.
    Basically, the highest group dps is the healers alternating who heals the aoe damage and dpsing, thus allowing more tank dps also.

    examples of improvements.
    On pull, Convo / Mantra / Adlo deploy (right before pull so it doesn't drop) - while you just spam malefic 2 and dots for a bit.
    A single aspected helios during the aoe to top people off before the next
    Indom on the second aoe heal, plus maybe another single aspected.
    Example in our group HGing the first hand slap instead of sharing the cleave, thus no aoe healing.

    ect ect. ...
    you get the idea, its a group effort.
    Also applies to white mage.
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  2. #72
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    As we are currently just starting in A3S, I can't say much to this.

    But that there is a difference, was very clear to me.

    The fight where I did expect trouble is T9. So the day came, where we did for fun, unsynced, T9 Savage, before AST buff.

    In unsync mode there is much less heal needed during golem phase. But it was still enough to get me in trouble to keep the party up and not pulling the boss to me during first heavensfall. I've no real idea, how this should be doable synced to 50 without the ability to reduce the emnity on the boss during the golem phase (healers still build emnity on the boss in that phase).
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  3. #73
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    Eats Popcorn
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    I have the solution. the one big thing i see is post buff problem, lets just go back to prebuff, aggro problem fixed.
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  4. #74
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    Jabby Ori
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    Behemoth
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    Culinarian Lv 60
    good to see now there are more people who understands the problem.
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  5. #75
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    Anna Dovetail
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    The idea of an astro or any healer pulling off me is ridiculous. I think your tanks just need to get better.
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I'm a bit baffled at this myself. I NEVER have enmity issues as an AST, but after reading this, I think it much of that comes to my favoring of Nocturnal stance up until hitting endgame. I prefer using the buffer verses regens, but hadn't given thought that the regen stacks would build that much aggro as my tanking buds generally outgear me and abuse the CDs.

    If the massive DPS needs of a pally in AS3 are doing this to Diurnal Astrologians, then that is a sign that something needs tweaking!
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  7. #77
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    Rylai Talisyn
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    Mateus
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    Diurnal Sect Now reduces enmity generation.
    Nocturnal Sect Now reduces enmity generation.









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  8. #78
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Quote Originally Posted by RylaiShendelzare View Post
    Diurnal Sect Now reduces enmity generation.
    Nocturnal Sect Now reduces enmity generation.









    It also raises threads from the dead it seems...........
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