Tank nerf coming?

[Kaiser-Ace]

It'll almost certainly mean Pure Vit tanks (Like me) will do more dammage than we did prior to 4.2 but, as it stated, the increese will not give us the same amount of power STR Tanks had in 3.15 and back.

That isn't a nerf it's a reballence. Vit Tanks,which is THE tank stat anyway (along with parry if it was better), will get a buff to make things as they should have always been. STR Tanks, an unintended player made anomaly that was never ment to work as so well, will receive an according kick in nads to officially end its inappropriate choke hold on the meta.

TL:dr, Vit Tanks are getting a buff, STR Tanks are getting destroyed. And then things should get back to normal.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Important to note that they said aggro calculations would be adjusted on tank stances. So a loss of dps shouldn't be a problem with holding hate. Not sure how that's gonna work in low level dungeons, though.

[PArcher]

I also must say that I scholar'd my way through all of coil while it was current, and there wasn't a single fight I couldn't DPS in. I wonder if you know what you are talking about.

There's a big difference between progression healing in Coil vs progression healing in Alex (except A4S). Remember T5, where you had to get those Adlos and Stoneskins on your CD-popping PLD or he'd die to the auto attack after Death Sentence?

And a difference between being able to DPS at points (Coil), and DPSing most of the time (A1S-A3S) as SCH. Really, the only fight we have right now that really pts pressure on healers is A4S, and there's still times when healers can go full-DPS mode.

I'd also like to check when you cleared A4S, but sadly I cannot. Why achievements are hidden by default is beyond me.


I also get the feeling everyone thinks that enemy damage is going to stay as it is now. If it is...I fully except even casual raiders to have A8S down within a month, since the DPS checks are going to be lighter and tanks and healers will be almost full-time DPSing.

[Galgarion]

I also get the feeling everyone thinks that enemy damage is going to stay as it is now. If it is...I fully except even casual raiders to have A8S down within a month, since the DPS checks are going to be lighter and tanks and healers will be almost full-time DPSing.

It probably is. The Devs already said Alex Savage was a bit more, well, savage than intended. I don't imagine the upcoming crop is going to be nearly as initially difficult as what came before.

[PArcher]

It probably is. The Devs already said Alex Savage was a bit more, well, savage than intended. I don't imagine the upcoming crop is going to be nearly as initially difficult as what came before.

The DPS checks were. Damage on the tanks...was so weak.

[vigioX-Sun]

Tanks are gonna be just a punching bag now.
An by the way a tank will only output a bad/lazy DPS.

[Shurrikhan]

Because tanks doing as much damage as Bards and Machinists is dumb, they're trying to solidify the roles a bit more clearly, there's nothing wrong with that. As long as the fights are balanced around the lower tank damage, what does it matter anyway? That the new expectation is a few hundred lower on Fell Cleave?

As a Bard, I don't really have an issue with that. ...I don't usually find that to be the case, anyways, but if a War wants to sacrifice its defensive CDs and stick entirely to Deliverance just for that bit more dps, I don't mind his dps being damn close.

I'd rather have them deal competitive dps, worth what they're losing in mitigation, than take that extra step back from versatility. ...Partly just because I fear what will happen to healers next, and then dps defensive CDs, and so forth.

[abzoluut]

I really don't get this "tank should not DPS" mentality. "Holding hate" is not a thing in FFXIV. You get it, it's yours. What makes every job interesting is how to max DPS while doing your job. What else is there, popping CDs on scripted busters...?

It also amazes me how all these bards and machinists got out-DPSed by tanks. An equally geared and skilled DPS would never have lost the DPS race against any tank. There is nothing wrong with tanks doing better DPS than lower geared or lower skilled DPS.

[Evangela]

because tank players were exploiting the game and the developers had no intention to have them play like that.

[vigioX-Sun]

How are tanks exploiting the game?