So are consoles holding back this game?

[Kosmos992k]

Have people learned nothing about segregation from the last century about how wrong it is? Have people already forgotten?

No, they did not (learn I mean). I have seen so much backward motion in society in the last 15 years, it makes me wonder about the ability of humanity to do anything constructive.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

No, they did not (learn I mean). I have seen so much backward motion in society in the last 15 years, it makes me wonder about the ability of humanity to do anything constructive.

Many times per generation someone always says this.

[Spawnie]

No, they did not (learn I mean). I have seen so much backward motion in society in the last 15 years, it makes me wonder about the ability of humanity to do anything constructive.

we should give the planet back to the animals lol they will do a better job than any human could XD

[Jim_Berry]

That moment when your MT causes a wipe because his graphic card decided to take a break...

Yeah, us console players have issues, too, but come on. We're all in this together, regardless of platform.

[Caitlinzulu]

That moment when your MT causes a wipe because his graphic card decided to take a break...

Yeah, us console players have issues, too, but come on. We're all in this together, regardless of platform.

I've never had any graphics issue's on ps4, but I've had my graphics on pc go corrupt a few times up to the point i had to shut down the game and start it again.
Also my ps4 never crashed on me except for a short time ago when there was a know teleport bug. Has been fixed and I enjoy a 100% stable system.

My PC crashes on occasion closing down the game without warning.

Draw your own conclusion about which system is more stable? :P

Does it matter? Nope, both are stable enough to be playable.

[Defias]

Don't get me wrong. I am not anti-pc.

In truth I call for the split because it seems to be what most PC players like to push for.
They always say that consoles are holding the game back...so while it may sound/come off as immature I want those players (Those who blame everything on consoles.) To get their way, so they can immediately turn around and beg to be reintegrated with console players.

Because I have an idea on how the cards will fall...

First they will celebrate.
Then queue time will become painfully long, then they'll notice many issues still persist/are not being fixed & SE will claim it's due to staffing issues & the old architecture of 1.0 (the real culprit in many aspects), then the pc player base will turn on itself for a little while (no room to blame consoles anymore, now it'll be lower end systems, and bad coding/threading holding the game back), then they'll say they should make the game cross platform again, SE will say can't cause some reasons, no one is happy.

The moral: Becareful what you ask for.

I guess you could say it's the same logic towards making the game more like FFXI & for the game to become ridiculously hardcore/full hardcore.
Then when things go the way of Wildstar, Vanguard, & etc.
Folks be like: "Well...we were wrong after all."

Of course this is an extreme view and it would be the death of the game. But the vindictive side of me would love for it to happen so I never have to hear certain topics again.

If I had a dollar for everytime I hear console limitations in game and on the forums.
I'd have paid off a new car by now.

[Kosmos992k]

Many times per generation someone always says this.

Sometimes they are right.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Sometimes they are right.

Doesn't mean they always are. For every single thing someone likes to proclaim is wrong with humanity, I look around and see just as many things that have gotten better over time. Life is too short for me to be fully jaded.

[Windseraph]

Simply put, PS3= Yes PS4= No. There is a large chunk of the playerbase who play on PS4, and if you were to take that away.....well, bye bye population/revenue.

[Defias]

What they really should do...
Is borrow a little from minecraft and have multiple versions.

PC/Mac Version & Console Version

With the PC/Mac Version having the top notch graphics, add-ons, features that PC players are begging for.

Console Version
An rebuilt version fully optimized for the select console, allowing smoother UI, textures, mapping, loading, and etc all for the console it is on.
IE: FFXIV (PS4 version, X-Box One Version, Nintendo NX Version, etc.)
This way each console can run the game to its strengths & unique features.

As SE wants cross-play they can have Console players cross-play with other consoles (PS, XB, NX).

This way the game can remain cross play (consoles with console, PC with Mac), end all the drama with the PC userbase, and from that point the only issue with the game will be on servers, coding, and some skeletons left in the closet from 1.0.

Side note:
Before someone says there is no drama with PC.
Try going a month without hearing a rant over consoles ruining the game development, and players not wanting console players in their raids.
It was even stated by people earlier in this thread.

Most console raiders...raid with fellow console players.
PC raid with PC.

Back on topic:
Splitting the clients up and redesigning/reorganizing the cross platform aspects would smooth out a lot of issues in this game.
As everyone would have a fully optimized, detailed, and top of the line experience for their platform of choice.

It's win-win for the majority.