So are consoles holding back this game?

[Sensual]

realistically, no not yet, the biggest thing holding XIV back right now is how they handle data saving, they save more often (twice as i recall) then most other online games like this do, which takes a large chunk of available server power to do other things, like larger inventories, etc. i think someone said they save every 15 seconds? and most save every 30 or something like that, someone more knowledgable on this could pipe in on it, but i think it's the biggest bottle neck the game has right now more so then PS3 support

That has nothing to do with the subject, that's a whole different thing by itself. You won't get better performance on your platform of choice by having more or less gear slots/retainers and what not.

[Dante_V]

I don't think so. There may be an argument against PS3 but the bulk of the player base of this game is working on systems that are equivalent or less than the PS4. The users with high end PCs are a minority when paired against the player base at large. So if you are considering the majority of the paying player base as "holding back the game" square will likely disagree. After all it is THEIR game, not ours.

[azlewood]

hey op, blame ps3, bye have a great day.

[Defias]

I once made a thread on this topic.

I personally am sick of the anti-console stuff. Everything wrong with the game is blamed on consoles.

Yet when people ask for SE to separate the console and pc versions...people get worked up.

Honestly I would love for them to split us up. Keep Playstation 4 & PS3 together, and let PC players have their servers.
Then they can have 2 optimized versions.
PC can have all the bells, whistles, add-ons, extra graphics, and etc that you all want.

And console players can be rid of the bias and just play the game.

[Iagainsti]

I once made a thread on this topic.

I personally am sick of the anti-console stuff. Everything wrong with the game is blamed on consoles.

Yet when people ask for SE to separate the console and pc versions...people get worked up.

Honestly I would love for them to split us up. Keep Playstation 4 & PS3 together, and let PC players have their servers.
Then they can have 2 optimized versions.
PC can have all the bells, whistles, add-ons, extra graphics, and etc that you all want.

And console players can be rid of the bias and just play the game.

Segregation, historically, has always been the proper solution to every problem /endsarcasm

[Slappah]

I once made a thread on this topic.

I personally am sick of the anti-console stuff. Everything wrong with the game is blamed on consoles.

Yet when people ask for SE to separate the console and pc versions...people get worked up.

Honestly I would love for them to split us up. Keep Playstation 4 & PS3 together, and let PC players have their servers.
Then they can have 2 optimized versions.
PC can have all the bells, whistles, add-ons, extra graphics, and etc that you all want.

And console players can be rid of the bias and just play the game.

"Be rid and play the game"

Actually we wouldn't be able to play because that would make queue times go up drastically

Server population would become tiny which in turn makes party finder useless

[Defias]

I know it would ruin the queue times and etc.
However if we got split up then the blame could no longer be placed on consoles.
That excuse goes out the window via process of elimination.
Now folks have to focus on the REAL problems.

The whole blaming consoles thing just needs to stop.

I personally don't care if ppl are pc or ps3 or ps4.
Rumor is we'll have Nintendo NX players too...if SE's talks went well with Nintendo.

Either way sharing/coexisting with console players seems to be a huge issue to a lot of pc players.

If you ask me...the issues with the game are all the remnants of 1.0 that couldn't be fully removed from the game's foundation.
The servers, armory system, apparently parts of the combat engine, aspects of the UI, and the way data is managed/stored.

But apparently it's all Playstation's fault.
Guess console players owe everyone a huge apology.

I wonder how this game would be doing if ARR had not released on those filthy consoles?

[Kosmos992k]

PS4 doesnt even Support DX11

that intire Operating system of Xbox consoles is based around DirectX hense the X in the name its a microsoft software
if Microsoft ever would let FF XIV to be on there console it would have had DX11 no doubts
but having DX11 on ps4 is just to far fetched

You're either ignorant of the situation or trolling. Either way, you necro posted this bait.

PS4 runs the equivalent of DX11, it's just not called DX11. DX11 is nothing more than an API library designed to grant developers easier access to certain kinds of functionality that a GPU provides in hardware. The GPU inside the PS4 is a DX11 capable GPU (i.e. it has the necessary hardware to cover the DX11 feature set & more), it's a PC GPU after all. Sony doesn't run MS Windows as their OS (thank god), so they don't/can't use the DX11 libraries. But there is nothing to stop them using their own customized low level APIs to provide identical functionality at a level even closer to the metal.

[Mirili]

But apparently it's all Playstation's fault.
Guess console players owe everyone a huge apology.

I wonder how this game would be doing if ARR had not released on those filthy consoles?

Whether or not you segregate them, if they're getting the same content, they'd still technically be holding back PC players. Content would still be tailored to work on PS3. People would still make threads about PS3 holding back the game.

And you know it is. >_>; There is no reason to be upset, or take this all personally lol.

Also, the segregation is a terrible idea. Would seriously break up already-established statics, FCs, etc.

[Caitlinzulu]

There is one other huge disadvantage to segregation. During the week i play at home on ps4. During the weekends i visit my parents and play the same character on a gaming laptop. If, god forbid, SE decided to segregate that I would no longer be able to do that. Also it would put an end to gardening for me since I wouldnt be able to log in during weekends on my ps4 based character to water the plants.

Have people learned nothing about segregation from the last century about how wrong it is? Have people already forgotten?

Its way to easy to blame every design decision on console shortcomings.