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  1. #61
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    It's possible. Just feels like an easy fix when there's so much other more important content coming.
    Moving it to Centurio isn't difficult either—they just put new items on the vendor's list. Modifying the item levels means they have to modify both the Yasha and Asuran gear, as there will be characters that have both pieces. If they move them to the Centurio vendor, all they have to do is move the Yasha stuff, as the upgrade items to make them Asuran come from the same vendor already.
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  2. #62
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    Katana190's Avatar
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    Katana Azurite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    It's still only happened once. While they added preexisting gear to the 2.1/2.2 dungeons, those dungeons also got new sets at the same time (they dropped two sets for each role). The only dungeons that didn't get new sets at all were the Snowcloak series in 2.4.
    Welp. It's been so long, corrected yet again T.T
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  3. #63
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    FeliAiko's Avatar
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    Feli Aiko
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    They're not going to put Law gear in dungeons, that would make no sense. The only instance where that happened (2.4) was when the ilevel of said pieces (i90) were higher than the gear set of the previous patch dungeons (i80). With 3.1 set being i185, the new set will probably be i200 at most.
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  4. #64
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    karateorangutang's Avatar
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    Celest Ru'milan
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    Moving it to Centurio isn't difficult either—they just put new items on the vendor's list. Modifying the item levels means they have to modify both the Yasha and Asuran gear, as there will be characters that have both pieces. If they move them to the Centurio vendor, all they have to do is move the Yasha stuff, as the upgrade items to make them Asuran come from the same vendor already.
    Designing a new set of dungeon armor is though. I hope I'm wrong actually lol.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSaint View Post

    Yeah, I do agree it would be better to raise dps survivability than lower tank dps, but, for the sake of classes balance, this nerf will be a real balance.

    #IMO
    Honestly though, the burden of meeting dps checks should fall entirely on the dps roles, not looking to the healers/tanks (which is what we see in gordias) to pump out the extra damage. The damage that a DD job can bring isn't that much higher than what warrior or healers are capable of in a ideal setting, and devalues the DD's role all that more.
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  6. #66
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    Designing a new set of dungeon armor is though. I hope I'm wrong actually lol.
    Oh, sure, that takes time. But that's...the whole job of the art team. They don't do any of the other work on the game, and they haven't had to design any more sets than they've usually done, so it's likely that we'll be getting a new set following established patterns.
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  7. #67
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    In reference to the discussion about tank dps nerfs.... I know there are plenty of tanks and healers that do great dps and want to carry content while doing the work of two different jobs and can and kudos to them.

    But what I see most often is a person that makes a scholar or a warrior specifically just to dps then joins content and doesn't want to heal or tank but is constantly wanting to be praised on their dps.... (If you hear them say something like "I'd prefer you just solo heal/tank" it's probably a bad sign) Then the group wipes repeatedly and all those individuals will talk about is how their dps is so good and if the rest of the party's dps was better we wouldn't wipe....

    Um.... we are all dead .... it wasn't a enrage mechanic there... The boss spun around and melee'd us all to death, one by one....very slowly... He killed the dps jobs first, one at a time, slowly, painfully, he clearly liked to watch them suffer... He forced the healers to watch *HE MADE THEM WATCH* It was only their sweet mercy that the healers didn't heal them. No one wants to live having known such hell. Death was but a mercy to the healers when it was finally their turn.... The tank he saved for last. The boss toyed with him him. Tried to make him think that maybe there was some chance for escape.... But the tank stood strong and calm as if the boss's plot made no impact. The tank didn't know the despair that should be befalling him. He didn't know his party was already..... in fact... dead(He was a little bit dense).

    I do love how the new midas gear set looks. I kinda thought the healer one was the best, though I know someone said they didn't like it. It's a hoodie! :P I have mixed feelings about the eikons armors. They look neat but would have been cool if they didn't all like share like 3-4 eikons. I empathize that it probably would have taken more time to make them all unique. I just wish they could hire a few more people if that's the reason.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 02-18-2016 at 11:14 PM.

  8. #68
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    Jeroak Nelave
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    Sargatanas
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    I expect that the new gear will be i195, so it doesnt make the ESO gear completely useless to get, but still alows people to gear up alternate classes. But since we already have i200 VA gear, maybe the dungeon gear will be i205.
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  9. #69
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionFranco View Post
    I expect that the new gear will be i195, so it doesnt make the ESO gear completely useless to get, but still alows people to gear up alternate classes. But since we already have i200 VA gear, maybe the dungeon gear will be i205.
    Esoterics gear will still be worth it since you can upgrade it to i210, anyway.
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  10. #70
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    This, and perhaps DPS needs to step up their game so Healers and Tanks can stop carrying them in casual faceroll content. I'm sick of running roulettes with pugs who do less DPS than my scholar and my husbands tank.
    When I run WHM I have terrible tanks. When I run Bard and use Foe, the WHM jumps around. When I tank, my dps doesn't Aoe on big pulls. Bad players will be bad, that goes without saying. The current stigma on why healers and tanks need to dps heavily is because of Savage, nothing more. The DPS race in dungeons will always be there, so long as speed runs exist. So keep pumping out as much as you can as your healer, because that meta will never change (in dungeons).
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