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    lol why would crafters need a chocobo anyways? derp.

    Headstrong adventurers that headhunt raptors all day to bring you back some items have more use for chocobos.

    To add to this, crafters are considerably specialized in more local work, not having to bear the wilds to get what they need. their profession is their only work. To join a grand company is enlisting into a military. Put a weapon in your hand, not a hammer.

    It makes all the sense to me. If you want a chocobo, rank a battle class to 25, should only take a few hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    lol why would crafters need a chocobo anyways? derp.
    I'm sure you really enjoy turning in local leves on foot.
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    Last edited by HiirNoivl; 09-28-2011 at 11:49 AM. Reason: No wait... you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    Also here's an easy analogy of the situation:

    I want to be a Musketeer, the guild is already in the game, the gun models are already in the game, but I can't be one because Musketeer hasn't been added yet, so I have to wait untill it is.

    Crafters want a personal chocobo, chocobos will be in 1.19, but they can't get one yet without a battle class because chocobo breeder hasn't been added yet, so they have to wait untill it is.

    That sounds pretty reasonable, yes?
    Yes, everyone get on their chocobo running around, and crafters and gatherers they also RUNNING around which makes everyone very happy about it. IT IS PRETTY REASONABLE.

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    DoH/L still have access to chocobos via rentals. The Grand Company issue chocobos are DoW/M only because Grand Companies are DoW/M access only. It really is as simple as that.

    SE adding incentive for players to try every aspect of the game is not a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    lol why would crafters need a chocobo anyways? derp.
    Is that sarcasm, or are you really at a knowledge level that you need it explained?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    I'm sure you really enjoy turning in local leves on foot.
    I'm pretty sure it makes much sense to join a military with a weaving needle. That's why rental chocobos are available. derp x2
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    DoH/L still have access to chocobos via rentals. The Grand Company issue chocobos are DoW/M only because Grand Companies are DoW/M access only. It really is as simple as that.

    SE adding incentive for players to try every aspect of the game is not a bad thing.
    I agree with your last line in particular. The problem with that idea is, everyone says that. But it only applies untill it inconveniences them. Then its a different situation. Look at all the threads about the new ideas for repears. Thats once more thing thats going to downgrade DoH value in the game.

    Personally I consider the DoL/H secondary classes to me and my play personally, but that does not mean that I have to be treaded like a secondclass citizen if they are my main focus. The more I read the forums, the more it appears the general populations has it in for the DoH/L. I personally think its a little sad that they can't be independent or a players main focus.
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    Rental chocobos are not the equal of personal chocobos. They originate from only 3 points on the map. Traveling from arbitrary point to another arbitrary point is a huge step up, even if we discount that rental chocobos cost money and aren't as fast.

    Grand Companies seem to hand out crafting manuals in exchange for their precious seals. This puts some significant tarnish on their pure combat shine.

    Making people do things in a game that they don't want to do is a bad thing. It makes people quit. Misery can be had for free. Forcing battle classes to rank a craft to fix their gear was bad. Forcing a crafter to fight so that they can access transit is also bad.
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    いつか人は一人になって思い出の中に生きていくだけ。

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I agree with your last line in particular. The problem with that idea is, everyone says that. But it only applies untill it inconveniences them. Then its a different situation. Look at all the threads about the new ideas for repears. Thats once more thing thats going to downgrade DoH value in the game.

    Personally I consider the DoL/H secondary classes to me and my play personally, but that does not mean that I have to be treaded like a secondclass citizen if they are my main focus. The more I read the forums, the more it appears the general populations has it in for the DoH/L. I personally think its a little sad that they can't be independent or a players main focus.
    DoH/L classes are being treated as secondary/support classes. That much is being made very clear. I can understand the disappointment a player may have if they were playing this game based on the initial promise that FFXIV would be a game where players could main DoH/L. The fact remains, however, that Tanaka's vision is not shared by Yoshi-P.

    That being said, continuing down this line of discussion derails the topic, making it one of Tanaka's FFXIV vs Yoshi-P's FFXIV - a discussion that will reach no productive outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    I'm pretty sure it makes much sense to join a military with a weaving needle. That's why rental chocobos are available. derp x2
    I am pretty sure those rows of citiy militia would look horrible running around naked and without weapons. You are cappable of understanding that those items have to be crafted by someone. derp

    I could sit here and post a point for this side of the debate for each point you make. The fact of the matter is though, folks like yourself will never even consider being open minded about looking at it openmindedly. derp

    How does it hurt you? derp

    Whats the downside (derp) for you (derp), that you resist the concept as a whole (derp)

    Derp, can you use it like the word smurf?
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