[dev1008] About Jumping

[Xbob42]

A button jump is not needed. A ledge jump (such as what is found in 13 and LoZ) would be more acceptable for numerous reasons. 1) It couldn't be spammed. 2) It could only be used where needed. 3) It would have no effect on battle at all. 4) It wouldn't lag the entire game because there wouldn't be a whole team of people jumping around for no reason.

1) Who cares if it could be spammed? Besides really, really anal weirdos on this forum and this forum alone and NO WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD? 2) Yay! Limit us! 3) Jumping almost never has any affect on battle in MMOs. 4) Jumping doesn't lag any game, and if it does you've done a horrible, horrible job making a game.

[Malakhim]

3) 4) Jumping doesn't lag any game...

It would probably lag FFXIV... >.>

That's not a stab at you or jumping as much as it's my own passive-aggressive attitude towards SE handling everything server side...

[Jennestia]

It would probably lag FFXIV... >.>

That's not a stab at you or jumping as much as it's my own passive-aggressive attitude towards SE handling everything server side...

Yep -- more than lag it would likely just be delayed.

[Dubont]

1) Who cares if it could be spammed? Besides really, really anal weirdos on this forum and this forum alone and NO WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD? 2) Yay! Limit us! 3) Jumping almost never has any affect on battle in MMOs. 4) Jumping doesn't lag any game, and if it does you've done a horrible, horrible job making a game.

1) It isn't just this forum. 2) Yes, limit us because it shouldn't be here in the first place. 3) Ever played WoW or PWI? What about RoM and Alloids? 4) Ever played a guild match in any PvP heavy game that has jump? During battle with 30+ characters on a screen, jumping will lag your game 90% of the time.

[Xbob42]

1) It isn't just this forum. 2) Yes, limit us because it shouldn't be here in the first place. 3) Ever played WoW or PWI? What about RoM and Alloids? 4) Ever played a guild match in any PvP heavy game that has jump? During battle with 30+ characters on a screen, jumping will lag your game 90% of the time.

1) Yes it is, or some other FFXIV-dedicated forum full of nutcases. Take this stupid ass argument to any general MMO forum and be laughed off as an imbecile. Honestly.

2) Yes. Mighty heroes should never jump. I mean, it'd ruin the immersion! I can't even jump in real life!

3) Yes. I have. Let's take WoW for example... Jumping has no effect on combat, except breaking your spellcast, same as if you moved. It has no other battle potential. There are ABILITIES that can help, such as disengage, but they're not normal jumps. Just because people are jumping doesn't mean it DOES anything, in fact, it lessens the control you exert over your character because you're moving in a straight line with no Y or X-axis control for a second or so, with no increased speed.

4) Jumping doesn't lag the game in that case or in any other. My god man, what the hell are you on about? I'd think it's the battle with 30+ players and spell effects AND NOT THE JUMP.

Holy damn, the ineptitude of these arguments is pitiful.

[Jennestia]

4) Jumping doesn't lag the game in that case or in any other. My god man, what the hell are you on about? I'd think it's the battle with 30+ players and spell effects AND NOT THE JUMP.

Holy damn, the ineptitude of these arguments is pitiful.

S/he is referring to the fact the game's interface is all serverside (Malakhim mentioned, which SE confirmed even though it was already obvious xD) -- whereas most other MMOs are client side; So it would be a latency problem rather than lagging in certain instances -- e.g failure to execute or very slow execution which already happens in battles at times.

[Nikita]

S/he is referring to the fact the game's interface is all serverside (Malakhim mentioned, which SE confirmed even though it was already obvious xD) -- whereas most other MMOs are client side; So it would be a latency problem rather than lagging in certain instances -- e.g failure to execute or very slow execution which already happens in battles at times.

If he were referring to FFXIV being serverside he wouldn't have made examples of MMOs with clientside interfaces as to why it shouldn't be added. It looks more like he has no clue what he is talking about and just really doesn't want jump added.

While I do agree that jump could potentially become annoying, I feel that the Final Fantasy community is more mature than other MMO communities and I don't think it would be as much of an issue as players think it would be. I'll be happy with whatever decision they make. I just wish people would be more open minded and more considerate of the opinions that other people have.