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    Yeah, you aren't selling a Plot. You're taking a bribe to demolish your house. They have to purchase the plot from the game. You've just taken an in game item from a player for nothing. There is no exchanging of goods. Gouging another player for millions of Gil, then they still have to purchase the plot. So there you go. You aren't selling value. You're inflating an action to have perceived value. So you'd report a player for taking your Gil, because you were trying to buy something that explicitly can't be sold. Thanks for the citation. Therefor, there can't be a scam, just a player who gave someone a bunch of Gil to try and circumvent a poorly implemented housing system. Quit defending it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    Yeah, you aren't selling a Plot. You're taking a bribe to demolish your house. They have to purchase the plot from the game. You've just taken an in game item from a player for nothing. There is no exchanging of goods. Gouging another player for millions of Gil, then they still have to purchase the plot. So there you go. You aren't selling value. You're inflating an action to have perceived value. So you'd report a player for taking your Gil, because you were trying to buy something that explicitly can't be sold. Thanks for the citation. Therefor, there can't be a scam, just a player who gave someone a bunch of Gil to try and circumvent a poorly implemented housing system. Quit defending it.
    You are taking in game currency to do an in game action. If that's the transaction both parties understand, there is no scam.

    The value of that action is what someone is willing to give for it, and what someone else is willing to accept for it. Value is perceived by those doing the transaction, not what you think it should be worth. The same holds true for everything, in game and in real life.
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    No, you're trying to "sell" a house. Stop dancing around an action that is clearly toxic and taking advantage of a situation by making it seem innocent. It isn't, it's unfair, and it's literally the definition of ransom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    No, you're trying to "sell" a house. Stop dancing around an action that is clearly toxic and taking advantage of a situation by making it seem innocent. It isn't, it's unfair, and it's literally the definition of ransom.
    Unfair to who, the people that want a house for way less than it's worth but weren't lucky enough to get it during the initial sale? If someone didn't "put a house up for sale," there's a 99.9% chance that the person who unfairly doesn't have a house still wouldn't have a house.
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    The house is "worth" whatever the game sells it for. The Gil you purchased the house for is of no consequence. Whatever the lot sells for from the server is the only price a player should have to pay. The system sucks because you don't get all of your Gil back, so yeah keep justifying your ransom. A player owning the plot adds literally zero value, so extorting money from another player in exchange for literally nothing is absolutely ludicrous. If the plot came with the house you built and the furniture you put in it, I'd say great. But there isn't even a system to fairly auction the house, just a workaround where people gouge other players because they weren't lucky enough. It's ridiculous that the behavior is tolerated. It sucks you can't have everything you ever put into the feature back, but that is no justification for this entire crappy workaround to a bad system. Stop it.
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