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  1. #31
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I know I'm just making it worse but... why exactly does this need three pages?

    While we are at it, lets make all fates drop crystals for relic quest pls 100% as well.
    And um, 100% success on anything else that has a chance of any kind to fail.

    Quick synthesis doesn't fail unless you couldn't have crafted it successfully with your gear *very easily* on normal synthesis.
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  2. #32
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    The only thing that bother me is having HQ quicksynth...
    That is actually a good point! I would love to have the option to say somewhere "no, thanks, I dont want HQ from this QS" - now that we can convert HQ into NQ thats the only thing I'm gonna do with most HQ-mats after QS anyways...
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  3. #33
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Patch 2.16:
    Craftsmanship, control, and CP parameters now influence the success rate and HQ rate of Quick Synthesis.
    If you're failing a trivial recipe 3-4 times in a row on quick synthesis, your gear is probably worn down to nothing.
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  4. #34
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    That is actually a good point! I would love to have the option to say somewhere "no, thanks, I dont want HQ from this QS" - now that we can convert HQ into NQ thats the only thing I'm gonna do with most HQ-mats after QS anyways...
    And i'm glad they put the HQ to NQ option...

    2.16
    It's that old ?!
    My...
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  5. #35
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    Callback Spanner
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 60
    OP is right here tho.

    In a craft that succeeds in 2 CSIIs, why should quick synth be a 50/50?

    At a minimum it should simulate pure basic synths with no mends. That's still a 99.63% success on a 4 attempt mat that clears in 2 basics, and quick somehow gimps that to 50%? This only exists to force you to sit there spamming 1 (or whatever CSII is bound to) and re-clicking manual craft. Why? How is this a good system in any way?

    Nobody is saying it should be doable naked. It just needs to use realistic success rates based on your actual stats and not some artificially inflated BS.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
    In a craft that succeeds in 2 CSIIs, why should quick synth be a 50/50?
    Name a single recipe that this happens for, and what gear you use. My quick syntheses are at least 99.9% success rate for everything level 59 and down.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Name a single recipe that this happens for, and what gear you use. My quick syntheses are at least 99.9% success rate for everything level 59 and down.
    While I was leveling, for example, in basic gear for that level, mythrite nuggets did that. I had to manually spam synths to avoid losing half of my mats. The formula really is that broken. I never trusted quick synth for anything that I wasn't severely over-leveled for again after that.
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    Last edited by Callback; 02-12-2016 at 02:38 AM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
    While I was leveling, for example, in basic gear for that level, mythrite nuggets did that. I had to manually spam synths to avoid losing half of my mats. The formula really is that broken. I never trusted quick synth for anything that I wasn't severely over-leveled for again after that.
    I don't remember mythrite nuggets taking 1-2 CSII to complete while leveling. Once I was at least a level above them (and cedar lumber, and similar recipes), I quick synthed the crap out of them with engineering manuals, with a success rate well over 90%.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    I don't remember mythrite nuggets taking 1-2 CSII to complete while leveling. Once I was at least a level above them (and cedar lumber, and similar recipes), I quick synthed the crap out of them with engineering manuals, with a success rate well over 90%.
    I believe they are like 210 progress, in 2.X bis gear at level 50 you gained 80 progress per csii, as soon as you dinged 51 your CSII did 140ish.
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  10. #40
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    Rana Kim
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    Lancer Lv 70
    If you really want to get your hand held this hard, maybe just play Sudoku.
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