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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    ehhh.. I think Ginal was right. Its you who is confused.
    In what sense? There is a distinction between the Blessing and the Echo. The Echo is what lets us get the Blessing. We have 6 crystals, Ysayle had 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    sniperoo
    Hmm, with a quick glance, of the named Scions, only you and Minfilia had the Echo - and Krile now, I suppose, if she counts. A few generic Scions that were killed in the Garlean attack did as well, but the others (Yda/Papa/'shtola/was-better-as-Lahabrea) don't. Moenbryda absolutely didn't.

    Having a few crystals doesn't automatically makes you a Warrior of Light, though. Remember, until after you defeat Lahabrea, even Hydaelyn calls you 'crystal bearer.' Ysayle is just an Echo user, not one of Her Warriors.

    The Echo also seems to grant us a wider array of abilities than what you mentioned, eg, the ability to form the Blade of Light is absolutely Echo-based, and we can enter someone else's soulspace directly with our resonance, as we did to confront Lahabrea, rather than the sort of passive touch used for translating. We also seem to be able to use it to sense Ascians? Not just see, which the Echo is confirmed to help with, but sense without sight; Nabriales mentions we have that ability, and we didn't have the Blessing then, so.

    So yeah, while you have the overall point right and I agree, a few tiny things were wrong. Not really enough to call you out, though, since they're kinda nitpicky details.

    This all being said - there's still plenty of mystery about being WoL. Why does Hydaelyn choose who she chooses? What is our ultimate, final role? And, everyone on this board's favorite, do we have any choice in any of these matters?
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    Hydaelyn chooses who she chooses and we have no choice in the matter because the writers demanded it.
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    What I am surprised of is that Hydaelyn's crystals can stand the test of time and don't simply disappear once that Era's WoL is done.

    Motoya's eye is proof of this. Why doesn't she re-absorb it? Does that bearer of that eye can be called "crystal bearer" If so, should we consider Krile one of "hydaelyn's chosen/ Crystal Bearer as well?
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    From my understanding Krile is on the same "level" as Ysayle was.

    But just echo + crystal =/= "Warrior of Light." That title refers to the player specifically (now, prior to 2.1 it meant something more generic), by virtue of us having Hydaelyn's special protection plus having obstained 6 crystals (twice), which is presumably a solitary accomplishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaitlanKela View Post
    From my understanding Krile is on the same "level" as Ysayle was.

    But just echo + crystal =/= "Warrior of Light." That title refers to the player specifically (now, prior to 2.1 it meant something more generic), by virtue of us having Hydaelyn's special protection plus having obstained 6 crystals (twice), which is presumably a solitary accomplishment.
    If what Krile says was true, that the echo has an small different in everyone. Then the echo that the WoL has, must have I guess, a distinguish that gives a great advantaje over all the rest of the echo users. We have also have to asume that the WoL is an skilled fighter, something we havent seen in the orther echo users and that we have an stronger blessing at the end of 3.0. But it wasant the blessing that made is strong, it was us.

    For what I see I think this is how things works. There a lot of echo users, all with the same traits but within an small difference. Only an small amount of the are the "Hydaelyn's choosen", they only have an small version of her blessing, but from them only 1 is called the "champion". That is who we are.

    I think thats who Ysalase survived for some time. She survived us and Ravana. Until she used the very same crystal of light to become Shiva, thus loosing her blessing, and how the garleans were able to kill her at the end.
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