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    Warrior of Light: (N)

    1. A person or persons who show up on behalf Hydaelyn just before the end of an Era to supposedly attempt to prevent a Calamity when in truth they are the very catalyst of that Calamity. The Warrior of Light has appeared before the end of each Astral Era

    2. A bad Omen. Something must really be wrong if the Warrior of Light has come to our aid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    At first, you have the NPCs who are using it in the early story to refer to the adventurers blessed with the Echo who stood beside Louisoix at the Battle of Cartenau and were sent into the interdimensional rift. When people try to recall them, they cannot. They liken it to trying to make out their silhouette against a blinding light - ergo, the Warriors of Light.
    Aaaaaand the last vision of a certain religious personage suddenly makes sense..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    That might depend of what we might find out about the Warriors of Darkness (who look like the 5 Warriors of Light that Louisoux flung into the future
    This is something I usually try to avoid thinking about too hard, because it makes my head hurt. We know that at least the Midlander and the female Miqo'te bard have the Echo, as did the male Elezen who bailed on the party. At this point, it's probably fair to assume that all of Midlander's friends have the Echo, as well, I guess. But how many are Warriors of Light? (In the "Hydaelyn's Champion" sense, not the Cartenau sense, obviously.) Derplander (the trailer player analog) is shown on the "Glyph of Light" with all six types of Crystal of Light. Did he scoop them all up while his friends made do with the Echo and his friendship? But maybe that's just him being you, right? But Derplander (the man who would become Darklander) fashions a blade of light with his axe.

    It makes my head hurt. It seems to confirm multiple Warriors of Light, but it's probably more "don't think too hard about it" until we see what the Warriors of Darkness are. It would have been easier to write off if they kept the party at six members, gave each a crystal, and had then power up the axe as a team effort... Or perhaps if Derplander was your predecessor. Was HE the one Hydaelyn was being specific with and giving answers to while you were lost at the Path of the Twelve - only to relinquish his status in time for you to pick up the mantle in ARR?

    I guess for now that nuance is one giant unknown...



    Quote Originally Posted by Ginal View Post
    So as far as the primary story is concerned, there is only one champion-warrior of light, but there are at least a handful of others with lesser degrees of Hydaelyn's blessing?
    That does seem to be the case as of everything up to the Warriors of Darkness. Do you remember the early cutscene where you're before the Crystal and you see other people flying around her, too? Those are other Echo users, other adventurers who are on less critical, less dangerous missions. Some fulfill their missions, some die fighting the good fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
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    Unless this goes Hydaelyn multiverse (which has its own set of questions, like whether there is only one Hydaelyn the Mother Crystal or multiple ones as well), its probably safe to assume that there can be more than one Warrior of Light at a time, it just depends on Hydaelyn's strength.
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    Im pretty sure Koji Fox once mentioned that scene and said that Hydaelyn has quite a few agent (Minfilia, Iceheart and Krile among them) but you are her chosen champion. Midgardsormr says your not just bless but chosen.

    As I read it there is only one 'The Warrior of Light' but quite a few blessed.

    Again I suspect that the Player WoL is pretty much Hydaelyn's last play. Its been mentioned that in the past there have been multiple warriors of light at the same time. Didn't the Hildibrand final chapter mention there was 4 Warriors of Light during the 6th Umbral calamity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Didn't the Hildibrand final chapter mention there was 4 Warriors of Light during the 6th Umbral calamity?
    Kind of. Most of what we're lead to believe points to twelve being a pretty standard number. Hatching-tide celebrated the twelve archons, the relic window says "they numbered twelve, no more, no less", etc. The Hildibrand story mentions "four warriors born of light" in the lower-case (a reference to the original Final Fantasy formula?), but the NPC uses it in the capital before deciding not Warriors of Light, but Gentlemen of Light! (Doot do-do DOOO!). The four Belah'dian "warriors born of light" would be post calamity, wouldn't they? Belah'dia arose after the fall of the Fifth Astral Era as the inheritors of Mhach's legacy.

    Seems like more of an in-reference than lore milemarker, unless I'm missing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Im pretty sure Koji Fox once mentioned that scene and said that Hydaelyn has quite a few agent (Minfilia, Iceheart and Krile among them) but you are her chosen champion. Midgardsormr says your not just bless but chosen.
    Correct!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer Escape Interview with Koji Fox (E3 2015)
    A: In one of the early quests, you see other people in the aetherial realm flying around the Mothercrystal. Who are they? Other adventurers?

    KF: Yeah, the Mothercrystal talks to many people. You’re the Warrior of Light, but she has to have other options. Not everyone is Warrior of Light material and there are lots of other things going on.
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    By pervious FF games the FF1's team. the meathod is different maybe (never played it srry) but the idea is the same also as other has stated in-game & here Hydaelyn's "servents" or "Tempered" have 1 or all of eather "the Echo", her bleasing/ward & something called a "Crystal of Light". We as the "player/Champion" story wise are her only champion & we user her "blessing/ward" to protect our allies that we fight with from tempering from another source... without getting to into detail, as others have explained it better, we have all 3 things listed (Crystal, echo, blessing) but I am unsure as to how ppl get these "crystals" if they are in ppl, aside from you know killing them... well there could be a spell/ritual that does this but I doubt it would "Spare" the host

    & now I feel like a "necro'd" something with just a jumboled repeat of already said info... if so srry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginal View Post
    So as far as the primary story is concerned, there is only one champion-warrior of light, but there are at least a handful of others with lesser degrees of Hydaelyn's blessing?
    A lot of people are confused by the difference between the Echo and the Blessing of Light. I believe most of the scions have the Echo. That grants a person resistance to the tempering effect of primals, the ability to understand multiple languages, and the power to see things from another person's perspective.

    The Blessing of Light is a distinct power that has only been used, as far, as I can tell, once, and that was during the battle with the Ultima weapon. It some defense against Zodiark's power, but I don't think it's been formalized as to what the blessing is. It's tied to the crystals a person has; we have all 6, Ysayle had 1.

    The Warrior Of Light is therefore an individual who has the Blessing of Light. I think the only other warrior was Ysayle.

    Another concern has to do with each individual's strength. Ysayle was clearly very powerful, as summoning a primal into her body and controlling it is not an easy task. An issue that was hinted at in the end of HW and then revisited in 3.1 is how our character is not just powerful, but probably the single most powerful entity on Eorzea. We're not strong enough to take down the Empire singlehandedly, but we've (lorewise) fought alone against various primals. The scales are tipping in the favor Light, but it's not confirmed that's a good thing.
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    I guess there's different titles for echo users

    1.There's the regular echo user
    2. Hydaelyn's chosen: Ysayle. Might refer to being given a crystal. Had she not focused on Dravanian-Ishgard war she may have well be a WoL companion
    3. Warrior of Light: Those with crystal(s) and actively fight for Hydaelyn
    4. Hydaelyn's blessing seem to be specifically to protect against Zodiark/Ascien abilities.

    We know she speaks to alot of people ... some people simply have more of her favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
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    ehhh.. I think Ginal was right. Its you who is confused.
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