Any good scholar guides out there?

[Tharian]

I play on controller as well. With using the extended hotbars? (think thats what its called) I have zero problems fitting my spells onto 2 hotbars and then two extended hotbars.

Not saying everyone will be like me but it may be something people having trouble fitting their skills on with a controller could look into.

I tend not to use two hotbars + the extended hotbar. I personally just prefer to stick to a single hotbar + the extended hotbar. But then I am somewhat obsessive compulsive and don't really like dealing with manually switching between hotbars like that.

@Nathair, that would be the very definition of what I dislike dealing with. Not only am I obsessive compulsive, but I also have an extreme case of tunnelvisioning, and having not just two hotbars + the extended to deal with but THREE... yeah that would drive me completely bonkers.

[Rawrz]

I use chotbar copy between healing skills with a bar for each pet and a cleric stance hotbar for each pet and an interrupt macro for silent dawn. You can psuedo queue skills by repeating them. Each line takes about .10-.20 depending on your framerate. Macro your fairy skills at the top of the list, if you're going to include yours. Your fairy is slow enough. Put macroicon on the last line.

[Tharian]

huh... macroicon on the last line? I will have to test that out, see if that makes a difference in macro speed. Thanks for the tip.

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What I think some of you guys need to understand, is that not every person who is playing this game has their brain wired in the exact same manner. Some people, such as myself, have several psychiatric disabilities that actually make it so that using Macros is just easier for us to cope with than trying to do every single thing manually the way that other people do them. I cannot multitask nearly as well as other people, so I need Macros to help me do some of that a little bit better. That is just the way that I work.

[Nathair]

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We're not really accusing you, we were just giving tips in case you wanted to experience a different way to deal with crossbar managment.
If you had said you had such a problem from the get go, no one would've pressed the matter in any way, because that's a totally different situation. But if don't say that, then there's no way we'd know.
In your case, you need macros, efficient or not, so there would've been no discussion at all.

[Mikoko_Miko]

Each line takes about .10-.20 depending on your framerate.

About 0.017 - 0.033 sec/line is correct.

/micon "Physick"
/pac "Embrace" <mo>
/pac "Embrace" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <tt>
/pac "Embrace" <me>
/ac "Physick" <t>
/ac "Physick" <tt>
/ac "Physick" <me>

This macro would not work as intended. If you cast a single-target healing spell on <t> when you target an enemy, it is redirected to yourself. And after /ac "Physick" <t>, temporary target returns to the original target. <tt> on the next line is an original targets' target, not a temporary targets' target. /ac "Physick" <tt> doesn't work.

These macros will do almost the same thing.
/pac "Embrace" <mo>
/pac "Embrace" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <me>
/ac "Physick"
/micon "Physick"
or
/pac "Embrace" <mo>
/pac "Embrace"
/ac "Physick"
/micon "Physick"
When you target no one, first marco Embraces yourself and second macro Embraces the Faery.

[Sida]

As someone pointed out, the macros can also be used for preparatory manner. A macro that summons a pet can also put it automatically on obey, and set that pet specific skills to your hotbar. So you can have one hotbar slot being either whisper wind or poison removing thing of selene, for example.

Another is one suggested mainly for WHM to put right level stone spell to their bar, but it also works for SCH, coupled with Protect it sets either ruin or broil to your main attack slot debending if you're currently level synced.

I can get the actual macro lines later since now I'm on my mobile.

Personally I don't like the idea of macroing embrace to heals either. The fairy casts it automatically even if it's on obey, and to me that works well enough.

[Mikoko_Miko]

I use the following Embrace macro (I repeat second line 13 times for pseudo queueing).

/merror off
/pac "Embrace" <mo>
/micon "Embrace" pet "Selene"

I found it more useful than raw action especially when I attack. Faerie's auto-heal isn't triggered until someone's HP drops below 80%. I'd like to order Faerie to cast Embrace on tank when I attack and everyone's HP is above 80%. So I target an enemy and mouseover tank then push attack action and Embrace macro alternately. This is easier to handle than attacking and healing while switching target.

I don't prefer Embrace macros combined with other spells because they are not flexible.

[sparkzz]

So reading a lot of guides and being a recent return player to the game and wanting to be the best scholar I can be, I'm confused with mixed threads from people saying wether to let Eos use embrace alone, or to cast it manually, or macro is with pyhsik. I know Selene is fairly simple to just let her do her thing unless you need to cast her silence manually, but I'm still undecided on how to get best use out of Eos. I'll hopefully soon start raiding (lvl 57sch and have all crystals ready for relic quest aswell as almost Finn Law gear) l.

Is a macro for Rouse/whispering dawn (Aoe heal) a must at least?

[Neela]

its a matter of your playstyle imo... so rouse/wd is nice to have but if you u use the faery buff every time it's up (f.e. to save some secs in cleric) a rouse macro is kinda useless imo... if you save rouse for heavy dmg income only go for it but here again its up to u in which way u will use rouse in general. personally i use it manually on sch but macroed it with enkindle on smn. :3

the embrace/physic macro was generally used for giving the faery a specific target while it ignores player with less hp as your current one - because normally it will autoheal players with hp < 80% but there are situations especially in further endgame content where f.e range/caster dds with less hp than the tank/co healer shouldnt be your priority -> the macro will force your faery to ignore them focusing its heal on your active target.

[Kerrigen]

know Selene is fairly simple to just let her do her thing unless you need to cast her silence manually, but I'm still undecided on how to get best use out of Eos. I'll hopefully soon start raiding (lvl 57sch and have all crystals ready for relic quest aswell as almost Finn Law gear) l.

Is a macro for Rouse/whispering dawn (Aoe heal) a must at least?

If you want to raid seriously (as in doing Savage tier content) as a SCH you will need to learn to micro Embrace to get the most out of it. It's easily achieved by using a mouseover macro if you're playing with M+K. I'm personally so used to manually Embracing that I never leave Selene on Sic and use Fey Wind/Caress manually but I'm apparently the exception and not the norm as most SCHs leave her on sic.

I also would advise against pairing rouse with WD if hotbar real estate isn't a concern. Sometimes you want Rouse but don't need WD and sometimes you don't need Rouse for WD because it's massive overhealing in a lot of situations and you're blowing up two healing CDs to achieve what can be achieved with only one. This is however not critical and if you struggle with hotbar management you can keep them together until you're comfortable with separating them, as their cooldowns do pair very well. I basically like to having as much control as possible.