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    AlexiIvaniskavich's Avatar
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    Hrothgar Grulag
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Going to assume that left side gear difference isn't an issue.

    My WAR co-tank runs the higher potency combo, and once told me that there were a few times he "backed off slightly" because the aggro bar was getting really close. That day was the last day he ever ramped down. I asked him how do I know how to stance dance optimally if you aren't playing at your absolute fullest? I told him that if he rips hate off me it is MY FAULT, not his. (with exception to the triple crit fell cleave - which is nobodies fault).

    Since then I have lost hate as a PLD once to a double crit fell cleave, a handful (less than 5) of times under normal circumstance, or if I derp and pull in SwO and stay there.

    I have lost hate as a DRK only on the dreaded, but loved triple crit fell cleave.

    Almost without exception, any time I lose hate, it has to do with me pushing my boundries and my groups boundries on stance dancing.

    If you need to tell a class to play sub optimally, then you aren't doing everything you need to be doing and you need to look inward to what you can do better. (Yes, even with PLD's issues right now)
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Talya Stormbreaker
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiIvaniskavich View Post
    If you need to tell a class to play sub optimally, then you aren't doing everything you need to be doing and you need to look inward to what you can do better. (Yes, even with PLD's issues right now)
    This guy gets it.

    When I got my 210 weapon I mentioned on raid night I might have to go easy. My MT responded, "you better not."
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    Instrumentality's Avatar
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    Character
    Eureka Evergarden
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    This guy gets it.

    When I got my 210 weapon I mentioned on raid night I might have to go easy. My MT responded, "you better not."
    It's not going easy so much as it is you not harming your raid group by playing badly?

    I dunno how much more simple it can be. Every time your MT has to do an extra enmity combo to stay ahead of you, you cost your raid more potency per second than you gain by doing BB. It is mathematically impossible for it to work otherwise.

    Edit: Unless you dual warrior. In which case your MT is never going to lose hate anyway.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.