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  1. #71
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    Aaliyahrose's Avatar
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    Aaliyah Rose
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    You already know that the WAR tank DPS is broken when you see a youtube video of 7 WARs and 1 WHM down Thordan EX. That shouldn't be possible in recent patch content.

    *EDIT* Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8nSBfGtkd8
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    Last edited by Aaliyahrose; 02-06-2016 at 10:25 AM. Reason: Source edit

  2. #72
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    first, fell cleave is 500 pot BEFORE dmg modifiers. it is the single strongest physical hit in the game. its the reason you can easily find some wars saying they had 8k+ crit fell cleave.
    second, unless you were planning to finish the sentence, more vit does not raise the damage you take, it raises the damage you can take.
    That is what I said. I replied to a girl who wanted to nerf Fell Cleave to 300ish damage. I said that was useless because they have a 300 potency attack.
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  3. #73
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That is what I said. I replied to a girl who wanted to nerf Fell Cleave to 300ish damage. I said that was useless because they have a 300 potency attack.
    true, but you ignored the part where she has it scale with hp. regardless, i think the idea to change it that way is bad, and agree with you on that.
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  4. #74
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear View Post
    You're misinterpreting my post. I am not debating for or against, because frankly it is pointless. Come 3.2, if you're not stacking VIT, you'll be doing all kinds of wrong. I was trying to add levity to this thread by encouraging Kosmos992k to go ahead and level WAR so they can get a perspective on why some people are being uppity.
    A lot of tanks I know (DRK and PLD too) are upset because they may not be able to use their DPS stance when tanking (something I'm hoping for...). That's what I'm talking about.

    I don't think our DPS is going to change much. Its just being "forced" to be in tank stance lowering DPS. Off tanking shoudm't be affected much
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    Last edited by PArcher; 02-06-2016 at 11:14 AM.

  5. #75
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    Lan Mantear
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    A lot of tanks I know (DRK and PLD too) are upset because they may not be able to use their DPS stance when tanking (something I'm hoping for...). That's what I'm talking about.

    I don't think our DPS is going to change much. Its just being "forced" to be in tank stance lowering DPS. Off tanking shoudm't be affected much
    I guess I'm misunderstanding something. How is changing dmg modifiers from STR to VIT 'forcing' us to stay in tank stance while MT? Why would it become detrimental to stance dance? Beyond the change in accessories, I don't intend to play any differently from how I am playing now. If anything, with the added pool of HP we should be able to use DPS stance more often.
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  6. #76
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That is what I said. I replied to a girl who wanted to nerf Fell Cleave to 300ish damage. I said that was useless because they have a 300 potency attack.
    'girl'?

    You need to learn some manners, and stop complaining about the changes.

    It's hardly useless when potency scales up with lower current HP, it's risk/reward, the reward is full strength Fell Cleave the risk is running low health to get it. I know it's not happening, but to me, the high risk, high reward concept fits Warrior perfectly.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    'girl'?

    You need to learn some manners, and stop complaining about the changes.

    It's hardly useless when potency scales up with lower current HP, it's risk/reward, the reward is full strength Fell Cleave the risk is running low health to get it. I know it's not happening, but to me, the high risk, high reward concept fits Warrior perfectly.
    Your not a girl? Sorry. Man.

    Didn't mean to offend you dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    true, but you ignored the part where she has it scale with hp. regardless, i think the idea to change it that way is bad, and agree with you on that.
    Unless healing has changed, scaling it with HP is bad because well... that means if your healed it would just be worthless damage.
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  8. #78
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    I haven't seen the live letter thing, but will they be doing anything with that worthless secondary stat Parry?
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  9. #79
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deedsie View Post
    I haven't seen the live letter thing, but will they be doing anything with that worthless secondary stat Parry?
    I don't remember it being specifically mentioned, but they did talk about there being a lot more adjustments, without giving specifics. I can only hope that yhey do something to make it relevant again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Your not a girl? Sorry. Man.

    Didn't mean to offend you dude.
    I wasn't questioning the use of gender, I was objection to the marginally dismissive use of 'girl'. I can only imagine the response if someone started calling other posters 'boy'.

    You could easily have used my name instead.

    Side question, even though you quite evidently don't like thebgame, why do you play the game and use your free time to post here about it?
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 02-06-2016 at 01:40 PM.

  10. #80
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deedsie View Post
    I haven't seen the live letter thing, but will they be doing anything with that worthless secondary stat Parry?
    They are not doing anything with parry. It will still slightly effect your parry rate.
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