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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    As I read it, "commendations are worthless and mean nothing, please make the requirement higher for commendations." That makes little sense to me.
    They're not worthless at all. Any player who takes the time to explain to the party how a dungeon work is far more likely to get commendations than anyone else. Sure there might be times where the team is lazy and doesn't bother (there really should be an automatic pop-up for these things), but overall if I explain something to a party, I usually get at least half the commendations from the group.

    The fact of the matter is that DPS queues are terrible because we have way, way too many DPS. And the ones who do get the commendations are tanks or healers, because they have instant queues and a good one is hard to come by. If the developers succeed at this endeavor, we just might start seeing more people confident in tanking and healing. And if that happens, all the queues will finally balance out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    They're not worthless at all. Any player who takes the time to explain to the party how a dungeon work is far more likely to get commendations than anyone else. Sure there might be times where the team is lazy and doesn't bother (there really should be an automatic pop-up for these things), but overall if I explain something to a party, I usually get at least half the commendations from the group.

    The fact of the matter is that DPS queues are terrible because we have way, way too many DPS. And the ones who do get the commendations are tanks or healers, because they have instant queues and a good one is hard to come by. If the developers succeed at this endeavor, we just might start seeing more people confident in tanking and healing. And if that happens, all the queues will finally balance out.
    First off, I did not say they are worthless, I said the OP said they are worthless and followed it up by saying they should increase the number required. The conclusion doesn't follow the reasoning.

    Second, you are not more likely to get a commendation if you explain the dungeon, as i have previously mentioned in this thread. I am about 5x more likely to get a commendation if I don't explain things, than if I am. I am not sure why, but this is merely from my experience.

    Third, I often receive commendations on my DPS.

    Finally, I am not sure why you think the mentor system may result in more healers and tanks in duty finder, but I doubt that will be the result of this.

    Personally, I think the result of all of this will be:
    1. People signing up to be mentors, only to be frustrated at the lack of gratitude received
    2. People who are helped by mentors will get angry that they are being told what to do, and they just want to play the way they want
    3. Neither of the above happen, but only a very small select few opt to have a mentor help them
    3b. The few that opt to have a mentor would have learned to play anyway through FC mates, asking questions and searching online
    4. There will be no noticeable difference in the quality or skill level of the average player
    5. The system will be largely forgotten in a couple of months
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    First off, I did not say they are worthless, I said the OP said they are worthless and followed it up by saying they should increase the number required. The conclusion doesn't follow the reasoning.
    Actually, I am the OP, and if you re-read that, I didn't say that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Finally, I am not sure why you think the mentor system may result in more healers and tanks in duty finder, but I doubt that will be the result of this.
    Because players don't realize how good they are at something until they try it. Players frequently have a preconceived notion of how tanks function in SWTOR, or WoW, or countless other games using the party trinity.

    I played melee DPS in WoW, I was terrible at it. I vowed not to try that in this game. I joined a raid group, our DPS was bad but my heals were good. So we gave a swap a shot and my raid leader asked me to be a MNK. I begrudgingly agreed, and within one week of playing it to L50 I was outperforming our entire DPS team.

    There's unlocked potential in all of these jobs, and not everyone realizes what they're really good at until they give it a shot and see for themselves. The mentor system is heavily encouraging trying other jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Second, you are not more likely to get a commendation if you explain the dungeon, as i have previously mentioned in this thread. I am about 5x more likely to get a commendation if I don't explain things, than if I am. I am not sure why, but this is merely from my experience.
    I read your example and I can guarantee that all the comms went to the tank who was new, rather than you who helped them.
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