Live Letter 3.2 tank changes, vit effects tank attack

[RecklessLion]

Meh damage for tanks getting that nerf. SEE would lose all common sense if you can keep insane damage with insane health. It all depends on how much dps tanks lose. All in all if it's what I think good luck all only true tanks will remain and well there's never enough while those who were having fun with the class quit to boredom. Fallen Wings pointed it out very clear. At the same time PLD will get their answers. I guess drk will only exist for show boat.

[Arkenne]

Maybe SE wants to implements busters that do 20k damage to a full buffed Tank and they cant do that if the Tanks are currently going about with 15~16k due to accesories?

[RecklessLion]

They would have too. If you can manage CD properly to a fight you can defend properly. But excessive healthy pool could make you lazy and easily distracted because well no worries. Which may breed bad tanks in general instead of pushing a tank to be better. Right now you appreciate a good tanks because it's noticeable, and since it's noticeable you appreciate a good healer also. It takes both to survive. But this could also make the healer complacent due to tank having health. Honestly instead of giving high health and dps with health should of gave defense and have mobs do insane damage where dps have to repeCT the tank roll and well tanks will feel proud about being that and since FFXIV is hugely skill play it makes playing tanks worth wild and contribute every for team work.

[Lyth]

What I don't understand is why people are claiming that more HP =/= more defense when it... pretty much is.

The objective of health points is to prevent death.

So to give an example that is easier to relate to; say you have Helmet A with 4 layers of protection and Helmet B with 8 layers.
A bullet is shot and goes through 3 layers. Helmet A is damaged and needs to be immediately repaired to survive the next bullet. Helmet B is damaged and can weather another shot before needing to be repaired. Clearly Helmet B provides more defense since it can weather 2 bullets versus Helmet A which can only prevent 1.

When you look over the course of some of the longer boss encounters, a tank can take upwards of 700k cumulative points of damage even after accounting for the effects of passive and active mitigation. That's a fairly large amount in comparison to the average tank's HP pool, let alone the HP variations involved in swapping between different types of accessory sets.

Regardless of how the tank's HP totals are set up, the healer is still going to have to heal through that 700k worth of damage. % damage reduction on the other hand (or defense/magic defense, if you prefer) takes a sizeable chunk out of the healing requirements. Helmet design is based around inches of kevlar, rather than miles of fluffy pillow.

There are specific scenarios where you can try to equate HP and defense (such as during periods of burst damage or tankbusters), but on the whole, you should consider and treat them separately.

[RecklessLion]

Well I'm going to sound like a hypocrite or very contradicting but vit is the best thing overall. Tanks can now tank and be full vit so tanking in offensive stances should be utilized more often. Plus vit gives damage now hmmm very odd but I think that's being allowed to make the PLD class suitable again. Cheer up folks we won't hit as hard as we do now but we fall in between being decent damage and high health. But if this is SE form of balancing tanks it's going to fail and the forum will be full of crazy.

[Blitzace]

Only thing that is meh, if we do get a DMG nerf. Makes it that much harder to carry bad DPS. Full STR full VIT idc. i'll be tanking either way

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Depending on how much of a nerf to tank DPS this is, I might be hanging up my collective tanking implements. It's infinitely more fun to deal high damage than it is to soak, but that assumes that there's no increase in damage to the tank. I've put my Warrior relic on hold precisely because I'm not sure how it's all gonna roll out.

[Lialiin]

im starting a war today....so go full VIT instead STR? or make STR only for leveling purpose?

[Kuwagami]

im starting a war today....so go full VIT instead STR? or make STR only for leveling purpose?

You're safe with STR until 3.2 launches. Though I'd keep VIT accessories to be a bit safe while on levelling.

[Kosmos992k]

Since HP regen scales off max HP, more VIT will equal more HP regenerated per tick. It will also affect the strength of StoneSkin. I'm just wondering what other impacts a larger HP pool can have beyond the obvious gain in HP.