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  1. #11
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    These people seem to be the evolution of boss spinners at low level. You're a Tank you are made to be a damage sponge. You have a Healer who hopefully knows what they are doing and will keep you alive so just stand still and hold threat so the DPS can burn stuff down. Some also seem to just panic when they start taking damage down to 50% and don't get a heal. You can see the difference between a Tank who knows what they are doing and somebody not used to the concept of tanking almost immediately by how much pointless movements and panicking they do when they start running away from mobs at 50%.


    Not that DPS and Healers are immune to making pointless movements like the "I took huge damage so I must run around in a circle while the Healer chases me" DPS and the "I have ants in my pants" Healers who seem to run in a little circle while they heal.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 02-05-2016 at 11:13 PM.

  2. #12
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    Sida's Avatar
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post

    Not that DPS and Healers are immune to making pointless movements like the "I took huge damage so I must run around in a circle while the Healer chases me" DPS and the "I have ants in my pants" Healers who seem to run in a little circle while they heal.
    Add I to this the odd dps or healer who accidentally grabs aggro and then starts fleeing away from the tank (and in some cases if dps, also out of the healers range). Either stay put and kill the thing or wait the tank to pull it back. Or run it back to the tank..
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  3. #13
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    These people seem to be the evolution of boss spinners at low level. You're a Tank you are made to be a damage sponge.
    The strangest part is, spinning or kiting mobs, especially bosses, doesn't usually stop any incoming damage. A lot of melee attacks tend to have unlimited range.
    Dodge a telegraphed attack, sure. But don't run around for nothing.
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  4. #14
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    Atoli's Avatar
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    This annoys me the most on bosses or single monsters. Because, while I understand that monsters move when you have to move out of an aoe by one of them, when there IS only one, you should be able to return to your old position before it regains movement after it finishes its cast ~.~
    I always make an effort to return to exactly the same spot so the boss doesn't even turn by 1°.

    To my defense on "random" movement with bigger monster groups though: I semi-main BLM, I know how much it sucks to throw aoes on groups that are so spread out you only hit half of the group with your Fire II or whatever it is. So after getting secure hate on all the monsters, I might run a few more steps to pull them all closer together if I know there is a good aoe-dps in the group :x
    Sorry if that messed up your positionals, dear raging monk in Dzemael °-°
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  5. #15
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    hmmm running away can prolong a swing timer briefly but you can end up paying immediate interest if the enemy in question is powerful and has a damage ability queued as well

    but it just annoys me so much cause these guys are always turning something into their group and cleaving them, then a big party wide AoE goes off and then someone dies. Just because of this completely random movement.

    point and case: i was just in Dusk Vigil the tank hit me with the boss' frontal cleave, Golden Talons. He also did not know what Freefall did, so he stacked on me. Then the boss cast that party wide AoE and it killed him because the healer chose to heal me instead of him.

    I mean, nevermind that being partially an issue of misplaced priorities - we wouldn't have even been placed in the situation if dude could just sit there and tank instead of running all over the place for no apparent reason.
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  6. #16
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    I don't mind when they play duck duck goose, I just hate when I am never picked for goose :'(
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  7. #17
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I think a lot of them are "duck duck goosing" because of the fact that they are with DPS with positionals.. no doubt when with BLM, SMN, BRD, MCH.. they feel at ease.

    After all, if you have to move for a freaking AOE, ALL OF THEM move with you, and you have to re-position them all over again.
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  8. #18
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    ProvidenceBreaker's Avatar
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    Aradia Moonfang
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    Seraph
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    This is why I can't play tank in this game unless asked to. I'm compelled to always be moving. It's like a mental crutch for dodging stuff. Maybe I played too much Tribes when I was younger. "Gotta go fast", as they say. I like to jump a lot too. Ninja is a natural fit for me. Any terrible tank who can't stand still might actually be a talented ninja without even realizing it.
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  9. #19
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    JenofWildfire's Avatar
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    Rhaya Wolfe
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    As a PLD main, I also hate this, though there are some bosses where you're dodging multiple things at once while trying to keep the boss somewhat still(last boss in The Vault, I'm looking at you with your horses and fire AOEs to dodge at the same time). Otherwise, I keep the boss as still as possible(and I can dodge single frontal AOEs and get back into position while the boss is locked in the casting animation) and faced away from the rest of the party. For the 24 man raids...don't get me started on that chaos...I just go in on my BLM. XD
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  10. #20
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    You see this a lot in the Ravana story fight where he does that massive cleave spam and you'll always have the tank spinning him around so that everyone gets hit. As a healer, you're telling me not to bother healing since everyone will die from your merry-go-round antics.
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