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  1. #181
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaitlanKela View Post
    True, but she doesn't make any effort to change her reliance on you. She just feels a little guilty about it.

    If her "mothercrystal" episode has inspired her to take more personal responsibility in a tangible, actualized way it will be totally worth the cliche "cliffhanger ending - is she dead, just kidding she's totally not, but you knew that," thing they pulled.
    She never actually died though. It wasn't even really suggested. I'd feel quite the opposite if she just turned up dead because it would seem like such a lame way to remove a character from the story. If your going to take a important character out of the story at least do better than she thought of something and ran off alone into a dark tunnel (which had been collapsed behind us by that point to stop pursuit).

    That said I do hope she is more proactive in her new role. Life as a manager didn't really sell her well. In the end though I don't think you will see her become a fighter. She relies of the Warrior of Light as she does because while she has the echo, she lacks the sklllset and possibly the talent to go physically toe to toe with a primal. Hey at least she did the paperwork. That would be a really boring MSQ quest. Read through a 40 page report on crystal shipments and look for any irregularities.
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  2. #182
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    Kekela Kela
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    She never actually died though. It wasn't even really suggested.
    In my first post, I totally said this thing. Almost exactly.

    My only minor gripe is that I feel it was suggested in a very superficial way. It was meant to elicit feelings of worry/concern from the audience, while simultaneously giving us hope that she'd be back. Bleh, it's pretty cheap storytelling imho.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    That said I do hope she is more proactive in her new role. Life as a manager didn't really sell her well. In the end though I don't think you will see her become a fighter.
    Again, I agree with you. I think turning her into a warrior when she is obviously not one would be very cheesy. "More provocative" is a perfect phrase to describe where I would go with her. More intrigue, more wile, more politics. 10/10 with use of that phrase.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    it's just there is someone in the story that does the exact same thing she does but more active about it. That person is Alphinerd unfortunately... -_-
    No. What Alphinaud does is make relations with the city-states and manages the Crystal Braves, while Minfilia helps with Primal investigations and what ever they find a problem to Eorzea, like the Ascians and Garleans.
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  4. #184
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    Kheima Rayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    No. What Alphinaud does is make relations with the city-states and manages the Crystal Braves, while Minfilia helps with Primal investigations and what ever they find a problem to Eorzea, like the Ascians and Garleans.
    Which before he showed she was doing. If that's the case why was he even in the story when a primal is present. Plus both of those duties goes hand and hand. That's why she seems useless cause they both have the same role. One of them can easily do that. Using what you just wrote Alphinerd did BOTH jobs in heavensward to prove my point.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    where she from again? seen her before.. but forgot where.

    p.s. I remmeber.. Jeane from Suikoden 4
    Yeah Suikoden she was in them all I think, she was the rune girl.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupocoubo View Post
    Her legs are too short.





    Oh cmon you have to be joking lol she has pretty long legs.
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    Last edited by Zeonx; 02-02-2016 at 01:18 PM.

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    Which before he showed she was doing. If that's the case why was he even in the story when a primal is present. Plus both of those duties goes hand and hand. That's why she seems useless cause they both have the same role. One of them can easily do that. Using what you just wrote Alphinerd did BOTH jobs in heavensward to prove my point.
    The 2.x MSQ has a lot of story lines involved (Mainly Primal investigating, Ascians, the one concerning the Crystal Braves and Ul'dah, an introduction to the Dragnsong War, etc), and Alphinaud is part of the Scions, so of course he'll be in the story. Besides, he is aware of Primals but he instead fortifies the Scions' relations with the city-states, so he did because of his influence and goals. He was more present with the investigation for Garuda however, but that is because the Scions were missing. With Coil, that's just it in his involvement in Primals... in ARR that is.

    After that he never dealt with other Primals that much again, until Heavensward in which the Scions were missing again at the time.
    While both of them can do it, that just means two brains are better than one to deal with it all.
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    Last edited by dinnertime; 02-02-2016 at 02:33 PM.

  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    snip
    Thats the thing he and she are doing the exact same job. She has as much of not more influence then him. She is actually more important to the story then he is. (She has echo)They made two characters for 1 job and don't know how to write their way out of it. And truth be told her coming back will be the same as it was before. Two characters doing the same job unless one of them is getting a MAJOR character overhaul. (Likely Minfilia)

    She may as well stay gone because she has no role anymore. Primals, politics, coordinate the scions, one person job. No need for 2 people when it's been proven one is enough.
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    Last edited by Ranzan; 02-02-2016 at 02:57 PM.

  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    Thats the thing he and she are doing the exact same job. She has as much of not more do influence then him. She is actually more important to the story then he is. They made two characters for 1 job and don't know how to write their way out of it. And truth be told her coming back will be the same as it was before. Two characters doing the same job unless one of them is getting a MAJOR character overhaul. (Likely Minfilia)
    I've already explained how they're not doing the same job at all, but both lead to the same goal: the safety of the realm. Still, they both work with different tasks.
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  10. #190
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    I'd rather ask the question why is she so useless... being hot and badass is one thing being hot and useless is another.
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