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  1. #241
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istede View Post
    This change will take place when there is a new tier of stuff. Generally accepted upgrade paths mean you probably won't be grabbing new accessories during the first couple of weeks, but Eso and Alex Savage will be off lock-out. Even if you don't have people to grind A1S with, you can go grab 4 bolts from A1N right now and wear that as a junk set until you spend the 2 or 3 hours needed to grind enough eso for a full set of fending replacements. Annoying yeah, but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.

    There's a difference of 7 main stat per piece of 190 and 210 jewelry, so a tank with 4 pieces of 190 and 1 210 piece would have 28 less VIT than someone with 5 210. Sure that's a disadvantage, but it's not going to be a problem for anyone but those doing early Midas progression. And all those people probably have enough pages, spare drops or eso right now to replace their slaying with fending.
    I am not talking about now. I'm telling you the developers have dug themselves a hole. Eventually that hole will get flooded with water.

    Also, since they changed something knowing a majority of players favored one way, but did not offer plans for compensation or explained how they have plans for the future, it kind of makes the players look like $$$ bags. Trade-ins are the fairest way to combat this.

    I don't mind that. If they gave me 5 weeks of free subscription as well. Remember, this game has lockouts based on TIME. This isn't a free to play game.

    Trade-Ins would be much more fair, because every other class NOT affected by this, can spend their time gearing alts now whilst tanks have to regear. THAT IS NOT FAIR.

    I guarentee you many people play more then one class you know.

    So essentially, we have to pay more then other players because of a mistake of development. That isn't fair.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 02-02-2016 at 04:24 AM.

  2. #242
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    I'm guessing the thread you made git deleted since your here now. Thought your idea got shot down enough, with more than enough time to farm a set before the patch, but guess you just want more

    You don't even play a tank, just have an alt with prototype accessories on.
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  3. #243
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Lol, you couldn't get sympathy in a thread you started so now you're trying to hijack another one making the same points people already argued against you for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I guarentee you many people play more then one class you know.
    I'm glad you said that. Your accessories are not useless because you can use them for a DRG or MNK should you ever choose to level them.

    "it's not fair, it's not fair." Stop whining and go run Expert and A1S to get your Vit accessories if you somehow haven't by now, because this change has been expected since October of last year, or even earlier, and this is coming from someone who mains a tank job.
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  4. #244
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    Istede's Avatar
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    Ixara Thorne
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Unless you are a new player I don't see how you would really be hurt by this. This game is literally shoving gear down our throats. I have 5 60s and the lowest ilvl one is i198. My
    main has been i208 for several months. And I quit for 3 months from September to November, plus I work full-time.
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  5. #245
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Whats really stupid is they are not giving us means to replace our gear by trade in. Every single MMO i've seen do something like this has done it in a way that affects EVERYONE. (Like, they should of done this at the start of 3.0, when everyone had to replace their gear.)
    I said this in another thread but I'll say it here too, SE not like other companies if you haven't noticed.
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  6. #246
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    AlexiIvaniskavich's Avatar
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    Hrothgar Grulag
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    .....So essentially, we have to pay more then other players because of a mistake of development. That isn't fair.
    1. This exact potential change was discussed in tank threads when the original statement from SE was issued back in November.
    2. STR isn't not being made obsolete. A STR spec will simply do less damage than a VIT spec (but more than a tank in a DEX build)
    3. SE made this announcement with more than 3 weeks left to cap your ESO now, to obtain the better replacement pieces (4 if weeks if you hadn't spent any eso this week)
    4. As with EVERY even numbered patch, new gear makes old gear useless. You were going to need to re-gear anyway.

    In General - stop feeling entitled, you don't deserve to be given new accessories (they aren't completely useless, just less than BiS), and you sure don't deserve 5 weeks free.

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    Last edited by AlexiIvaniskavich; 02-02-2016 at 04:43 AM.

  7. #247
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I am not talking about now. I'm telling you the developers have dug themselves a hole. Eventually that hole will get flooded with water.
    They've done nothing of the sort. You're just lazy and don't want to do anything to fit the new meta once we know what it is.

    Also, since they changed something knowing a majority of players favored one way, but did not offer plans for compensation or explained how they have plans for the future, it kind of makes the players look like $$$ bags. Trade-ins are the fairest way to combat this.

    I don't mind that. If they gave me 5 weeks of free subscription as well. Remember, this game has lockouts based on TIME. This isn't a free to play game.

    Trade-Ins would be much more fair, because every other class NOT affected by this, can spend their time gearing alts now whilst tanks have to regear. THAT IS NOT FAIR.
    They were actually very smart to release this change right when new dungeons, a new currency, and a new raid tier are being released. Basically, they've removed some of the pain from regearing by implementing this change at a point when you should be regearing anyway. Boo hoo they aren't giving you some bolts to replace your Prototype accessories. Many of us anticipated this change as a possibility as soon as impending tank changes were announced for 3.2 and decided to hang onto some Fending gear just in case. This is what you get for being lazy and expecting everything to just be handed to you when changes are made.

    Also, lol @ 5 weeks of free subscription. Why? Your tank isn't even wearing Eso/Gordian accessories.

    I guarentee you many people play more then one class you know.
    Good point, so slap your STR accessories on a MNK or DRG and call it a day. :3

    So essentially, we have to pay more then other players because of a mistake of development. That isn't fair.
    The change is being announced three weeks in advance, so either get your tail in gear and prepare or just laze around and change it as you update your gear naturally. It's completely up to you. I swear, if you would put even a fraction of the effort toward farming some Gordian bolts to replace those Prototype accessories as you do toward whining on the forums about the supposed problems with this change, you would've been done regearing already and there wouldn't be anything for you to whine about.

    And for the record, you can go farm some Eso without ever touching Neverreap if you really hate it that much.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 02-02-2016 at 05:41 AM.

  8. #248
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    Instrumentality's Avatar
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    Eureka Evergarden
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    Excalibur
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    Just a heads' up, guys, but Nektulos-Tuor doesn't even have a tank at 60.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Just a heads' up, guys, but Nektulos-Tuor doesn't even have a tank at 60.
    He does, he just hides that alt on his account because he doesn't want people to see it for whatever reason.

    Probably because it's using Prototype accessories, which renders half of his argument moot from the get-go.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 02-02-2016 at 05:44 AM.

  10. #250
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    He does, he just hides that alt on his account because he doesn't want people to see it for whatever reason.
    Is it 'his' like "My main account has cleared A4S!!" or actually his?

    Because that seems hilarious either way.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

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