Pet Glamor System

[FeliAiko]

What if they want to change the colours of their fairies ? Like a fabulous blue one ?
If summoners have the pet glamour option, so should scholars.

There's no reason to give it to SCHs simply because SMNs are getting it. They're not the same Job, so there should be no expectation for them to get the same thing.

[Nalien]

There's no reason to give it to SCHs simply because SMNs are getting it. They're not the same Job, so there should be no expectation for them to get the same thing.

There is absolutely no reason not to give Scholar Pet-Glamours... The amount of work that would go into it pales in comparison to the amount of work for Egis... Eos and Selene are basic pallet swaps, and Scholars pet animations are far more basic than Summoners anyway, it would be incredibly easy to, for example, allow Scholars to only ever summon Eos (or rather, Lily) for both Summon and Summon II. Even giving Carbuncle the healer/support pet animations wouldn't be too much of a problem.

On the flip side, giving Carbuncle melee pet animations, plus Enkindle, and then giving each Egi a full set of mage/tank/melee pet animations is a lot of work. The tank and melee pet animations are far more flashy to begin with, plus none of the Egi are simply pallet swaps, they're all unique. You wouldn't be able to just give Ifrit-Egi Rock Buster for his tank animation, because that's unique to Titan. You'd need to work new Egi animations for other moves Ifrit uses (Eruption would be good for a mage Ifrit-Egi version of Aerial Slash, for example).

The whole point of a Pet-Glamour system is to give pet Jobs slightly more customization over their Job, there is absolutely no reason not to give Scholar the same thing. Scholar is a pet Job, and it would be far easier to give Scholar a wide array of pets than it would be to give Summoner the same thing.

[AlphaFox]

I am not against SCH getting it but honestly when it comes to the fairys I never really notice them most time, as best they look like a small glowing ball of light unless I am sitting right there at the boss door waiting on everyone.

[FeliAiko]

The whole point of the Pet Glamour system is SE compensating for the fact that they're not giving SMNs actual new pets despite saying they would throughout all of 2.x. It has nothing to do with SCH and their pets, hence they are not obligated to give that Job the same thing. MCHs have a 'pet' too, so should SE extend the system to that Job by default too? CNJ has an exclusive mount, so should every Healer get an exclusive mount too?

[Kupocoubo]

There's no reason to give it to SCHs simply because SMNs are getting it. They're not the same Job, so there should be no expectation for them to get the same thing.

Yes. Because the title of the topic is called "pet glamor", not "egi glamor".
Anyways, I wouldn't care if Schloars don't get the options because I am not one, but it would seem unfair.

"CNJ has an exclusive mount, so should every Healer get an exclusive mount too? "

It has nothing to do with glamour. Don't compare things that are not related in any ways...

[Rawrz]

They really need to expand the lore of fairies. They are creations of a Nymian Empire, attached to the scholar's Soul Stone? Why wouldn't we be able to alter her form? Blah blah lost technology. She is Aether. I'm sure there is a necessary plot hole for it. There always is.

But technically, the smn story line essentially says all primals after ifrit are too strong for you to absorb their aether. Should I think they should break that plot hole and give summoners glamours? Yes. Lore is in the past, it can always be updated as time progresses.

[Kupocoubo]

Lore is in the past, it can always be updated as time passes.

Amen

[FeliAiko]

Yes. Because the title of the topic is called "pet glamor", not "egi glamor".

Yeah, and by 'pet' the OP was referring to SMN Egis - in relation to what SE mentioned on the matter - as seen when you read the original post.

Anyways, I wouldn't care if Schloars don't get the options because I am not one, but it would seem unfair.

Unfair to who? SCH's weren't told they would get extra pets only to be shafted, but SMNs were. This is SE's attempt to make it up to them.

"CNJ has an exclusive mount, so should every Healer get an exclusive mount too? "

It has nothing to do with glamour. Don't compare things that are not related in any ways...

The point was that just because one Job gets something doesn't mean it has to be then given to every other (related) Job. Even more so when you understand the background behind why they're attempting to make this effort for SMN in the first place (which in my opinion, they shouldn't bother with, but they chose to back themselves into a corner like this so... we'll see if they even follow through in the end).

[AstralKaos]

Carbuncle for everyone, minimum, please. Anything else can come later if it's such a hard task to do.

I wouldn't even care if the Carby looked slightly off with the animations, the spells they use aren't so drastically different to their Egi counterpart to be fair, half of them are just particle effects anyway, with a shot out motion (kinda) and that even goes for most of the Titan/Ifrit moves, so I'd take it barely altered if it's too much work to add a slight difference in animation to their usual casting so the Carbuncle spells look... normal/right/etc (?).

[GamerChef6]

Sorry all, but I am limited on my forum posting knowledge and don't know how to insert the comments of others here. So please bear with me:

Response to Nalien, FeliAiko, Kupocoubo:All of this is surrounding FF lore. Summoners normally have the ability to summon multiple types of Egis, Espers, Gaurdians, which ever term you want to use. This has always been a standard in FF games. In FFXI, the summoners had access to all "primals." FFVII you could attached any summon materia you wanted to your slots, FFX Yuna had every summons available to her, FFVIII, all party members could junction 4 Guardians and summon them giving you access to 12 Guardians at any given time, and so on. Yoshi P and Dev's admittedly rushed the Summoner/Scholor development at the very end to include in ARR because that was a big complaint from 1.0, but did not think of this element. The only thing that I see holding this development back is that we don't include the use of the element wheel in this game, but that still isn't a solid enough reason not to at least give the summoners a glamor system. Heck, I will go back into every Primal Extreme again to earn it if I have to like in other FF games. The use of the off hand slot is a great idea as it is a slot already in place, but no being used.

Secondly, the point that Conjurer has a class specific mount is valid. They gave tanks their own mounts, and I know it was to get more people to tank, but still no other job has a reward for just being that job. So the argument is valid. Tanks got a reward for being a tank, Conjurers got it just to get it. So, why should summoners not have what is truly correct per FF lore? That would also mean that every class having a glamored pet is an invalid argument as well. No other class in FF lore has pets/summons.

As for Scholors, I can see a glamor system in the future, but more lore needs to be developed to make it work. As it sits right now, there isn't enough lore to really generate these glamors. So, like dragoons just got in this expansion, hopefully there will be a couple patches or an expansion (preferably expanison) that will focus on the summoning job, beyond the job quests, to allow for greater lore generation. We can see that Doma will have a focus on Ninjas (since that appears to be their point of original), Al Mihgo will probably focus on Monks (same reasoning thanks to Yda), so let's keep that train rolling on all classes if they are going to continue with a focus per expansion/patch on specific jobs/classes. Patches would probably be better, since there are too many classes versus the number of expansion that will probably come out and they could give each job/class an opportunity for MSQ focus that way (but this is an aside, off topic).