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  1. #141
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    Antitower leading to world of Darkness? Warriors of Darkness? New class...dwarf? Maybe the warriors of darkness arent that bad after all. If the opposite is happening in their world as we save ours. By that I mean, for every instance that we save our world and do good, bad stuff happens there. and vice versa...So maybe they came through the antitower to the world above to stop us from destroying their world?
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  2. #142
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    Fenral's Avatar
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Was hoping for more advancement with the Garleans or whatever, they've just been camping out on Azys Lla for a while now.
    Garleans exist to be downplayed, up until one of them drops a moon on us and we go, "Holy carp, we should have been paying more attention to those guys after all!" Rinse and repeat.

    Good to see some forward movement on the Sharlayan front, I guess. And they've outright announced Minfilia will be involved, which axes my theory that they'd be saving her for last.

    Am I looking forward to it? Reluctantly.
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Interesting. It's very clearly inspired by Ipsen's Tower from FFIX...which just so happens to be my favourite FF game after FFXII. I'm quite pleased!
    Right? I was super happy to see that design. It looks so cool. It would be neat if they included some version of the "reverse mechanic" that was in the original Ipsen's Castle. They obviously couldn't do the gear reversal (since you couldn't expect people to Q up for Ex roulette with a lvl 1 weapon, just in case they get the Anti-Tower), but it would be cool if there was some kind of homage to it in the boss mechanics or something. Either way, it is definitely a cool design.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    Right? I was super happy to see that design. It looks so cool. It would be neat if they included some version of the "reverse mechanic" that was in the original Ipsen's Castle. They obviously couldn't do the gear reversal (since you couldn't expect people to Q up for Ex roulette with a lvl 1 weapon, just in case they get the Anti-Tower), but it would be cool if there was some kind of homage to it in the boss mechanics or something. Either way, it is definitely a cool design.
    They could have an Undertalesque boss to fulfill that mechanic (have to be spared rather than Killed), maybe make like the guildleves that have you trying to /soothe mobs
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Garleans exist to be downplayed, up until one of them drops a moon on us and we go, "Holy carp, we should have been paying more attention to those guys after all!" Rinse and repeat.

    Good to see some forward movement on the Sharlayan front, I guess. And they've outright announced Minfilia will be involved, which axes my theory that they'd be saving her for last.

    Am I looking forward to it? Reluctantly.
    One, that means since I started 2.0 in Gridania then I'll officially relocate the scions in reverse order which I was introduced to them.
    Two, The Garlens are almost unjustly one uped constantly by the Warrior of Light's Deus Ex Machina ability, or worse Cid Ex Machina. So sadly unless the Warriors of Darkness or Ascians team up with them again it's possible they will never be in a winning position so long as they seek Eorzea. Real world conquerors has similar problems trying to conquer Russia and India way back when. It never ended well.
    Finally, I wonder if this will lead up to Sharlyon Proper becoming an antagonistic force? I don't like them simply because they hoard knowledge and refuse to use it for anyone's benefit save possibly their own. And allegedly their powers over magic rival if not surpassed Garlemauld's mastery of technology.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Finally, I wonder if this will lead up to Sharlyon Proper becoming an antagonistic force? I don't like them simply because they hoard knowledge and refuse to use it for anyone's benefit save possibly their own. And allegedly their powers over magic rival if not surpassed Garlemauld's mastery of technology.
    It might be possible that some of the Shalayans might want omniscence. And they have shown some disdain to Eorzea (see the "Savages" comment in the AST quests). It's also possible that they might seek the same power and prestige the Allagans (an empire noted for being nigh utopian on the surface, and likely seen as an example of a perfect Technocratic society) and seeks to emulate them like Garlemald, which might be why the CT plot (headed on the Sons of Saint Coinach) played out they way it did. And Sharlayan might have their own lot of mad scientists. SO its possible that they might be an antagonist. (though whether or they they seek to bring back Allag's "Glory Days" like Garlemald is still unknown)
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  7. #147
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    There's so much that could be done thematically if we were to get Nero in the party as a proponent of full technological deregulation, paired off with a Sharlayan Archon in favor of total unified control (you know, like that one). So much potential, but then I'm reminded that Heavensward didn't have the most elegant solution to the Estinien/Ysayle dynamic.

    The backstory for the Circle of Knowing, combined with the shenanigans of the Astrologian storyline, kind of gives me the impression that we'll see Sharlayan move into an antagonistic position, but only once we've weakened the Empire enough for them to sweep in and clean up.
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  8. #148
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    There's so much that could be done thematically if we were to get Nero in the party as a proponent of full technological deregulation, paired off with a Sharlayan Archon in favor of total unified control (you know, like that one). So much potential, but then I'm reminded that Heavensward didn't have the most elegant solution to the Estinien/Ysayle dynamic.

    The backstory for the Circle of Knowing, combined with the shenanigans of the Astrologian storyline, kind of gives me the impression that we'll see Sharlayan move into an antagonistic position, but only once we've weakened the Empire enough for them to sweep in and clean up.
    I wouldn't rule it out. The Shalayans share a view of looking down on the other nations of Hydaelyn. The main difference is the Shalayans seem to want nothing to do with them rather than to rule them. I could see the Shalayans actually taking a more 'Brotherhood of Steel' role where they try and forcefully deny or seize knowledge or magic from Eorzea because they don't feel that the Eorzean people are wise enough to have access to such knowledge rather than conquest.
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  9. #149
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    I noticed something after I was DCed a few times and had to stare at the Sea of Clouds loading screen for a while. The Antitower might, might be in the Sea of Clouds. If you look at the artwork there is an inverted tower on the underside of floating islands, it like in the dead center of the image too. Anyone have any thoughts.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I noticed something after I was DCed a few times and had to stare at the Sea of Clouds loading screen for a while. The Antitower might, might be in the Sea of Clouds. If you look at the artwork there is an inverted tower on the underside of floating islands, it like in the dead center of the image too. Anyone have any thoughts.
    It's possible. Though since it's a Sharlayan building I imagine it's more likely to be in the Dravanian Hinterlands as a construct that burrows deep into the earth itself.
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