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  1. #1001
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    Philia Felice
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    This is gonna sound kind of disrespectful on my part but if you don't raid, in FF14, you probably shouldn't care that much about your stats beyond a certain point. You don't notice all these 1% upgrades and min/maxing until you're doing slugfest raids where you save 5 seconds on a phase you've done literally 500 times and can see the tiny differences because everyone's decked out in their BiS vs their non-BiS. Upgrades in FF14 are very miniscule, and in non-raid content you're basically just gearing up further if you enjoy the idea that you're gearing up further, if that makes sense.

    But to answer your question more legitimately, yes go for full i210 Esoterics as your goal if no other i210 opportunities are available. iLVL is king. You can do some Diadem and get some pretty nice stuff too but again, you won't notice it in dungeons/overworld/Thordan for the most part.
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  2. #1002
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    Ashmal Gamesh
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    Well, say like that, gearing up if you don't raid seems totally useless. But I understand the point. So I will stop to waste my time with the Ariyala's gear calculator and just go full Eso

    Or maybe I will just continue Xenoblade Chronicles and wait the next patch...
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  3. #1003
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Well next patch we should see different gear with other stats i believe, not 100% sure on this however.
    For the hat you can just go for the Void Ark hat, and boots as well. Eso gloves are.. not all that great in my opinion and Diadem ring is actually better then having one non-upgraded eso.
    The point of not raiding but wanting to min max i rather sort of agree with Sleigh on, does it however mean you should not get bis gear? Well no, that is entirely up to the player. XD
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    Last edited by Maero; 01-30-2016 at 03:25 AM.

  4. #1004
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Secondary stats are not going to beat main attributes, this was proven way too long ago. 50-70 Critical (Being roughly) only adds around 1% Critical and main attribute guarantees damage increase, the damage numbers go far higher with much more intense attribute increase. I seen tanks try to do this system in A3s/A4s and it notably gets them killed, it's not a benefit and their DPS was under par.

    Edit:

    The only time to make this exception is to reach optimal rotation, hence SS/SS, example: Warriors 3x Fell Cleave. Of course Blm don't really need any acc out of current gear and acc caps, so lets leave that out.
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    Last edited by Undeadfire; 01-30-2016 at 03:44 AM.
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  5. #1005
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Yeah, they stack.
    Soooo, does Foe and whatever the MCH version is everything BRD and MCH have stack too then?
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    Last edited by Waliel; 01-30-2016 at 07:22 PM.

  6. #1006
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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    Soooo, does Foe and whatever the MCH version is everything BRD and MCH have stack too then?
    Yep.

    Also, during the liver letter dummy thing, Yoshi had 12 seconds on AF/UI. Possible buff ?
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  7. #1007
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    Philia Felice
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    Interesting if it comes out. There are definitely a lot of scenarios where it could help.

    - F4 > F4 cast starts > dodge - can now do another F4 instead of skipping to F1. Or hell just doing F4 F1 F4 F4 F4 would be more lenient and less likely to screw you if you dodge further in the rotation.
    - F3P > F4X3 without making B3 cost normal MP
    - F3 > F4 F4 > (TC because use or lose) F1. Normally you need F3P or have to do a dreadful B3 ASAP.
    - Scenarios like A4S phase changes where you may Transpose, and want the UI F3 to hit the next phase for less MP, but you want the MP from 3 ticks of MP. It's tricky to time as it is, if you didn't get a B3 off. Actually in general this would be godly for A3S phase changes and magnets, and A4S in specific parts.
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  8. #1008
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    New potential opener w/ enough SSPD + Fey + Ley lines / Arrow ?

    5 F4 > Swiftcast > Flare > Convert > F4
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  9. #1009
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    I think it's "viable" in the sense that it would work speed wise and MP wise (need roughly 11s due to F3P AF wasted time, need about .5s to do Swiftcast, 10.5s to do 5 F4s means 2.1 F4 GCD which I believe is possible with all factors), but that'd mean an opener with single target Arrow on the BLM ;/ Only good for fflogs chasing I would suspect.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 01-30-2016 at 10:34 PM.

  10. #1010
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    I think it's "viable" in the sense that it would work speed wise and MP wise (need roughly 11s due to F3P AF wasted time, need about .5s to do Swiftcast, 10.5s to do 5 F4s means 2.1 F4 GCD which I believe is possible with all factors), but that'd mean an opener with single target Arrow on the BLM ;/ Only good for fflogs chasing I would suspect.
    Pretty sure it would be possible to do it with just a regular expanded arrow w/ enough spell speed(1100+, which should maybe be attainable in the next raid cycle) since I can do a 4 F4 into swiftcast flare with my spell speed now with an expanded arrow.
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