Artifact Armors!

[Zenaku]

Agreed, more pointless grinding isn't content. It's artificial lengthening of current content, it's stupid. We already have 18 (19 including sentinel) classes to level up, adding another 7 with no reason would just be ridiculous.

and doing the same dungeon 500times to gear all your 50s is content for you? i mean if you get max level within 2-1month and do dungeon for months at end even if they add 1-2 every 2months that mean you have to get the new gear over and over again. I agree i don't want to level up 1-50 x8 times but there really noting else to do then just leves,party,dungeon, pointless sidequest with no real plot or good storyline. I guess i'm being picky i know this game would turn out great in about 1year more but right now it seem there noting to do but level.

[Krausus]

and doing the same dungeon 500times to gear all your 50s is content for you? i mean if you get max level within 2-1month and do dungeon for months at end even if they add 1-2 every 2months that mean you have to get the new gear over and over again. I agree i don't want to level up 1-50 x8 times but there really noting else to do then just leves,party,dungeon, pointless sidequest with no real plot or good storyline. I guess i'm being picky i know this game would turn out great in about 1year more but right now it seem there noting to do but level.

and ranking up is content to you? it seems you are also under the impression that they are not also adding in more content to do.

[Zenaku]

and ranking up is content to you? it seems you are also under the impression that they are not also adding in more content to do.

I would like partying if i did not have to walk from A--->B to find the same mobs if it was more like ffxi where you sit there and have a puller and there more a role i enjoy it more but i guess that what jobs are for huh? just hope when they remake the map they allow that type of partying. Doing leves is boring and i'm just sick of it partying seem to be fun just to much walking atm.

The issue with adding jobs that you become Pug50---> 50mnk is people really not going to know there role in a party and it going to confuse a lot of new players and players who are playing now. I just think they can't really balance it out right that Jobs would be better for dungeons/party vs Class even with the new spell,ja,ws. They have to be 10x better but not overpowering. A lot of people wont want to be a Job because they want to hybrid and jobs wont let you hybrid every spell,ja,ws from every class. It just seem like SE is digging them-self a bigger hole trying to add this new job system top of the class system when they could just remake all the class and allow jobs to solo but when you party it give more EXP due to it being a party vs just you soloing and still allow people to solo.

i guess we wait and see what it going to be like lol.

@Krausus you kidding me right? look at my history i got 33 lancer too 37 and switch to Pug and got that 37-41 in a short time doing partying and only doing leves when there up for marks/gil. i only got back to the game 6days ago due to my gf pc having issue and have to get new parts from newegg.

[Krausus]

I would like partying if i did not have to walk from A--->B to find the same mobs if it was more like ffxi where you sit there and have a puller and there more a role i enjoy it more but i guess that what jobs are for huh? just hope when they remake the map they allow that type of partying. Doing leves is boring and i'm just sick of it partying seem to be fun just to much walking atm.

The issue with adding jobs that you become Pug50---> 50mnk is people really not going to know there role in a party and it going to confuse a lot of new players and players who are playing now. I just think they can't really balance it out right that Jobs would be better for dungeons/party vs Class even with the new spell,ja,ws. They have to be 10x better but not overpowering. A lot of people wont want to be a Job because they want to hybrid and jobs wont let you hybrid every spell,ja,ws from every class. It just seem like SE is digging them-self a bigger hole trying to add this new job system top of the class system when they could just remake all the class and allow jobs to solo but when you party it give more EXP due to it being a party vs just you soloing and still allow people to solo.

i guess we wait and see what it going to be like lol.

@Krausus you kidding me right? look at my history i got 33 lancer too 37 and switch to Pug and got that 37-41 in a short time doing partying and only doing leves when there up for marks/gil.

Well I'm pretty sure that you can unlock your job pre 50, so you should be able to level your job beside your class, I think what they mean is what ever rank your class is the job will be. Also I dont think that a job is going to drastically change the play style of any class so much that you have to completely relearn how to play. So not sure about anyone else but I didn't learn how to play my Lancer to its full potential until after the rank up process. I mean I knew how to play him but I really truly learned the ins and outs on NMs and the dungeon since ranking up is a very basic process when it comes to battle.

[Zenaku]

Well I'm pretty sure that you can unlock your job pre 50, so you should be able to level your job beside your class, I think what they mean is what ever rank your class is the job will be. Also I dont think that a job is going to drastically change the play style of any class so much that you have to completely relearn how to play. So not sure about anyone else but I didn't learn how to play my Lancer to its full potential until after the rank up process. I mean I knew how to play him but I really truly learned the ins and outs on NMs and the dungeon since ranking up is a very basic process when it comes to battle.

Ya i agree with you but it's does not change much then what the point? why do all the work of making jobs? when just renaming the class and giving them AF would have been less work?

in ffxi you learn in partying but iguess things have change lol i just don't see people doing jobs if class are better in dungeon not if they lock you out of class and only can enter in as a job then that would make more sense or maybe that what they thinking of doing.

[Krausus]

Ya i agree with you but it's does not change much then what the point? why do all the work of making jobs? when just renaming the class and giving them AF would have been less work?

in ffxi you learn in partying but iguess things have change lol i just don't see people doing jobs if class are better in dungeon not if they lock you out of class and only can enter in as a job then that would make more sense or maybe that what they thinking of doing.

but thats the thing, class will not be better then Jobs in group situations (Keep in mind it will be class+job not removal of the class in place of the job). Take Lancer for example I fully expect to gain more DPS and more TP management from Dragoon but loose out on the ability to cast cure or sacrifice. Well if White mage is around I fully expect to not have to use cure/sacrifice and welcome more dps/tp management.

Also this allows FF to retain the Armory system (versatility) while also offering the job system (Specialized role)

[Physic]

but thats the thing, class will not be better then Jobs in group situations (Keep in mind it will be class+job not removal of the class in place of the job). Take Lancer for example I fully expect to gain more DPS and more TP management from Dragoon but loose out on the ability to cast cure or sacrifice. Well if White mage is around I fully expect to not have to use cure/sacrifice and welcome more dps/tp management.

Also this allows FF to retain the Armory system (versatility) while also offering the job system (Specialized role)

if drg are not noticeably more dps, than a fully specced dps lancer, then there is no point to jobs, the point is, its most liklely not a specialisation, It is an improvement. You can already specialize your lance and give them more dps by not EQing cure. take away your points in mind, give them to dex or str, unequip cure and add blinside, or raging, or ferocity or bloodbath, or still precision or hawkeye or cadence or keen flurry or comrade, etc. This already exists to make your dps better and sacrifice versatility. So now, drg has to do more dmg than a fully dpsed up lancer, which means its not simply a specialisation, which already exists, but an upgrade.

so yeah are you going to use the upgraded job, or are you going to use the gimp job. Now they could not make jobs an upgrade and make a fully dpsed up lancer = to a drg, but then it wouldnt be better in parties.

Point is, they are for most intents and purposes going to replace the classes.

[Eekiki]

and doing the same dungeon 500times to gear all your 50s is content for you? i mean if you get max level within 2-1month and do dungeon for months at end even if they add 1-2 every 2months that mean you have to get the new gear over and over again. I agree i don't want to level up 1-50 x8 times but there really noting else to do then just leves,party,dungeon, pointless sidequest with no real plot or good storyline. I guess i'm being picky i know this game would turn out great in about 1year more but right now it seem there noting to do but level.

When I was a kid, and my family would go to a restaurant for dinner, I'd always whine about having to wait for the food after ordering. My mom would ask me, "You want them to serve you raw food?"

You can either deal with the lack of content now, knowing that a year from now there will be a lot more to do, or SE can rush out a bunch of throwaway BS content like sidequests, which everyone will have done in a week then be back to whining about having nothing to do.