Are the actual Ascians all but defeated?

[myahele]

Or maybe *darksteelfoil hat on* the other Ascians KNEW Nabri's plan was doomed to fail and only thought we'd kill his physical form and he'd get a scolding for acting too rashly. When we actually destroyed him, they were worried but thinking "at least he took care of our annoying little brother" and scrambled to their respective areas. Maybe different ascians are tasked with different areas of Hydaelin, and Nabriales just butted into Eorzea when we foiled Lahabrea, with Elidibus trying to "convert" us.

That's what I think. Somebody must have taught the tribes in Othard how to Summon primals. I'm pretty sure that an Ascien helped give rise to Garlemald via showing Midas(?) allagan magitek to reverse engineer.

Heck, maybe an Ascien is involved in convincing the rest of Sharlayan to remain neutral and leave Eorzea.

[Morningstar1337]

Heck, maybe an Ascien is involved in convincing the rest of Sharlayan to remain neutral and leave Eorzea.

That would means that an Ascian would have hired Sylvestre to assassinate Leveva's father. The thought is amusing, yet possible