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  1. #51
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Yeah you've totally uncovered the mystery. Congrats.

    I'm a healer in Maelstrom on the Aether data center which equates to people getting easy kills on me, and being a part of the Grand Company that loses the most.

    Try again.

    EDIT: I also fully support drops from the actual content (Coil) that it originally came from.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 01-28-2016 at 07:12 AM.

  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Right, cause crafting is totally not an actual gameplay component and nobody actually enjoys it.

    You're a PvP'er, and you just want to farm easy kills/wins off people that hate PvP. Got it.

    @OP - I'm assuming it'll be done how the dyeable AF gear was. You are required to have the actual armor piece, then you craft an additional item and trade both of them in for the resultant dyeable item (or perhaps just actually craft the dyeable version).
    I mean in all honesty, with the AF you did a quest. With Allagan you had to actually clear content and get a drop. I'd rather it not be based on crafting.

    I mean I don't think it should be based on PVP. I think it should just be made dyable. But if it has to be based on something I'd rather it be based on you obtaining the drop itself from coil
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Yeah you've totally uncovered the mystery. Congrats.

    I'm a healer in Maelstrom on the Aether data center which equates to people getting easy kills on me, and being a part of the Grand Company that loses the most.

    Try again.
    The point of what I said was to show how ridiculous your statements were, honestly.

    I mean, you basically claimed that crafting isn't part of the game.

    EDIT: I also fully support drops from the actual content (Coil) that it originally came from.
    I'm actually hoping you DO need the drops, so we'll enjoy a resurgence in glamour farming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Ah, so basically you have no point. You're a crafter, and you want to make profit off of people who hate crafting. Got it.

    Yeah, let's not rejuvenate an actual gameplay component (PVP) of this game that some people do actually enjoy, so that people who like to rip others off can make more profit for themselves.
    I'm a crafter... and don't want specialist anything in the game. So I don't think only those that craft can be in favour of that option, as like me, I'm in favour of anything BUT that outcome.

    I'd wage war on every front to remove that filth from the game.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    The point of what I said was to show how ridiculous your statements were, honestly.

    I mean, you basically claimed that crafting isn't part of the game.



    I'm actually hoping you DO need the drops, so we'll enjoy a resurgence in glamour farming.
    Oh, I'm sorry. Please quote the statement I made where I specifically said that crafting wasn't gameplay. I was talking about rejuvenating PVP since queues are pretty much dead in the water.

    Maybe next time you should try and make a point without having to implicitly twist someone's words to suit your statement.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    If that's the case then I simply won't be getting them. I'm just done supporting anything that involves crafting on my server. No gear is worth the cost of a medium plot of land (which are the kinds of prices you see on the Siren marketboard)
    He is right....lol


    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Right, cause crafting is totally not an actual gameplay component and nobody actually enjoys it.

    You're a PvP'er, and you just want to farm easy kills/wins off people that hate PvP. Got it.

    @OP - I'm assuming it'll be done how the dyeable AF gear was. You are required to have the actual armor piece, then you craft an additional item and trade both of them in for the resultant dyeable item (or perhaps just actually craft the dyeable version).
    And I guess we will find out...I'm crossing my fingers that it's not the new gear set and it's not class locked but I doubt they will take that route with it.
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    Last edited by UnstablePersonality; 01-28-2016 at 07:33 AM.

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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry. Please quote the statement I made where I specifically said that crafting wasn't gameplay.
    Your statement didn't directly say that crafting wasn't gameplay, but the context, of your response to a poster suggesting they should be crafted items, clearly implies it:

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Yeah, let's not rejuvenate an actual gameplay component (PVP) of this game
    If PvP is an "actual [i.e., real] gameplay component," then in context, that means you're saying that crafting isn't one.

    You may not have meant that, but if so, you didn't choose your words very well.
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    Last edited by Alahra; 01-28-2016 at 07:41 AM.
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    Yes, I did not mean that crafting wasn't gameplay.
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  9. #59
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    People, chill and have a cup of whisky.

    We all favor different aspects of the game, but there's no need to invalid other player's favorite. After all, no one likes it when something they like get bad-mouthed. What's more, going by SE history, unless they stand neutral on a topic, no amount of suggestions (or whining) will change their mind. So at the end of the day, all we can do is pray hard that it will arrive in a way we can accept, and if it doesn't, should we grind or simply ignore it.
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    I sincerely hope it's not PVP! So people who cleared coil and got drops are stuck with undyable version, but someone who never touched coil but plays PVP gets a better version?? Terrible.

    They should either make the items themselves dyable to encourage more people to do the content, or require the gear plus an extra item for a similar effect. Coil has great fights and this would be a good way to encourage more people to experience them. It's not like any of it's hard if you all go in at level 60!*

    *except perhaps t9, haha.
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