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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
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    As for why Allag is handled as a bigger threat? They aren't really, it's just that all the crap they left lying around is extremely dangerous and always getting into the wrong hands. Almost literally everything that goes majorly wrong is because "Allag something." Dalamud, Ultima Weapon, Syrcus Tower, Omega, Azys Lla...
    The problem with this(and its a fixable problem, really) is that it starts to make any non allagan threat seem minor, the allagan stuff is just wasted on Eorzea, when in any other situation it probably wouldn't be.

    Omega kinda plays into this, assuming it doesn't saunter off to Garlemeld while no one is looking. Just what is Eorzea doing with all the allagan stuff that happens to be found on their territory? With the idea of faving such a powerful enemy in war possibly in the works, could we be tempted (or desperate enough) to go down the same road they did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Just what is Eorzea doing with all the allagan stuff that happens to be found on their territory? With the idea of faving such a powerful enemy in war possibly in the works, could we be tempted (or desperate enough) to go down the same road they did?
    What are we doing with all the Allagan crap lying around? Nothing, probably, because we've learned from the Garleans' example that messing with Allagan crap is bad news bears. Every time they've come at us it's been with some Allagan tech, and every time it's backfired in their faces spectacularly.

    Dalamud not only didn't end Eorzean resistance, it exploded and let out an Elder Primal that proceeded to devastate the land in short order.

    Ultima Weapon did what it was supposed to, but also had a nuke capability van Baelsar was unaware of and didn't like. It also wasn't enough to intimidate or overcome Eorzean resistance (though we did need a direct intervention from Hydaelyn Herself to survive Ultima).

    It's primed to blow up in their faces on Azys Lla too, with all the VI references suggesting someone's gonna go nuts and/or devastate the world.

    The temptation is there for us to go down that path, but since modern Eorzean civilizations are rather spiritual, I don't see it happening any time soon. It's cited that part of Allag's cultural degeneration was due to the fact they believed themselves absolute masters of the world and disavowed the existence of deities, rather like Garlemald aspires to be, leading them to doing whatever they wanted without regard for morality. (I'd question how atheism makes people depraved monsters with an insatiable lust for conquest, but this is neither the time nor place, and the Allagans and Garleans sound more like anti-theists than atheists. Besides, Hydaelyn has proven herself capable of direct corporeal intervention, so at least she definitely exists. Jury's still out on the Twelve.)
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