AntiTower Speculation

[Kaiser-Ace]

Speaking of Allagan ruins and underutilized potential, is anything ever going to happen to the Unfinal Coil of Bahamut in Boulder Downs?

I seem to recall the dev team saying that the Bolder Downs ruin was unrelated to the binding Coil. They did how ever imply that it was important some how. So it could be the Anti-Tower considering it does have what looks like a Spire sticking out of the ground.

[Kaiser-Ace]

I remember back in my innocent, First-Coil days working my way through the story thinking "Wow! This is totally gonna factor into the expansion!" Thus far we've had dragons and Garleans and Allagans but nary a mention of whatever the XIVth excavated from Eastern La Noscea.

Not sure they successfully got anything. The Allag Security was no joke so even getting into the first coil would have been extremely difficult. It took the Warrior of Light and seven other Echo users just to get past the front door afterall.

[Fenral]

Not sure they successfully got anything. The Allag Security was no joke so even getting into the first coil would have been extremely difficult. It took the Warrior of Light and seven other Echo users just to get past the front door afterall.

Well, maybe the writing team needs to stop trying so damn hard to preclude that kind of development, because Regula van Hydrus (or even the Emperor himself) riding into battle on Twintania would be intense. It would totally up their threat-level knowing that they had succeeded with at least some of their efforts in the Coil, instead of always getting beaten back like the ineffectual Saturday morning cartoon villains we already know they aren't.

Rather than, "Roflmfao, Garleans don't get Allagan tech," it should be, "Oh, sh[eep], these guys know exactly what they're doing, and they aren't messing around!" They aren't Team Rocket, they're a technological powerhouse that's conquered most of the world, and yet we always seem to face them at their derpiest.

[Theodric]

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Sadly I can't shake the feeling that both Regula and Varis will end up dead fairly soon. Neither has received much in the way of attention so far - though ironically we've seen more of Regula than Varis. I find it rather bizarre that a bigger deal isn't being made out of the Emperor of Garlemald making his way to Eorzea. Yes, he's 'stranded' on Azyz Lla but considering that at least one FATE references reinforcements arriving from Garlemald itself one has to wonder why he hasn't just razed Eorzea to the ground given that he was directly assaulted during the events of 3.0.

Ideally I'd like to see both Regula and Varis remain antagonists in the long term, but since we're dealing with The Warring Triad I suspect they'll go all out with the FF6 references and just have the Emperor perish in Azyz Lla somehow. Which will then likely result in another succession war within Garlemald - which in turn will no doubt result in the Ala Mhigan Resistance growing bolder and throwing Eorzea's strength at Ala Mhigo in an attempt to reclaim it. I would like to hope that the story won't be as predictable as that but...without meaning to brag I predicted quite a few things back during 2.0's patch cycle that turned out to be correct.

I just want...more from Garlemald. I don't want them to be 'convenient plot villains' and I certainly don't want them to be 'Allagan Reborn'. I want them to be similar to the Archadian Empire in that they're actually not bad guys at all - they're simply heavy handed and have a few bad apples in positions of power. That would put them roughly in the same situation as most of Eorzea's city states. Plus if we ever do go to Ala Mhigo or Garlemald itself I'd much rather do so as an ally rather than an enemy. I think that would be much more interesting and it'd also allow us to explore Garlean culture and interact with genuine Garleans who are loyal to their people and homeland rather than those that have simply defected and aren't very 'Garlean' anymore.

[Chewy2nd]

Sadly I can't shake the feeling that both Regula and Varis will end up dead fairly soon. Neither has received much in the way of attention so far - though ironically we've seen more of Regula than Varis. I find it rather bizarre that a bigger deal isn't being made out of the Emperor of Garlemald making his way to Eorzea. Yes, he's 'stranded' on Azyz Lla but considering that at least one FATE references reinforcements arriving from Garlemald itself one has to wonder why he hasn't just razed Eorzea to the ground given that he was directly assaulted during the events of 3.0.

Was Varis still on the Gration when it reached Azys Lla? I got the feeling he went back to Garlemald after meeting us in the Sea of Clouds

[Theodric]

Was Varis still on the Gration when it reached Azys Lla? I got the feeling he went back to Garlemald after meeting us in the Sea of Clouds

It's not really made clear, but I'd assume so - he seems like the type who would stay to oversee the operations going on in Azyz Lla and if they're going all out with the FF6 references then it doesn't bode well for his survival if he is there. On the other hand at least one FATE implies that reinforcements from Garlemald are able to make it to Azyz Lla which suggests there's both a supply line and a means of long distance communication. Which, realistically, means that they should at least be able to get the 'VIP' Garleans out of there if things take a turn for the worse...

[Morningstar1337]

I see, then that means that Omega is a possible factor in how the Triad was sealed. If the Weapon was supposed to go toe-to-toe with the Dreadwyrm and win, then that means it needed some test subjects of similar calibur. Odin is a likely candidate but him wandering around the Twelveswood seems to have ruled him out, that leaves the Triad as the other possible test subjects

[CyrilLucifer]

Oh, and just to be clear, I mean in the tower design process, not actually what happened in-game.

I would not be surprised if Omega was a part of how they were sealed, however, and they were probably transported to Azys Lla at a later time.
Plus, it leads up to a nice Dragon God Shinryu entrance at some point to compliment the FFV and VI references.

[Februs]

I see, then that means that Omega is a possible factor in how the Triad was sealed.

This is assuming that the Allagan Empire actually had a hand in sealing the Triad in the first place. If they did, then Omega seems like the best candidate for the job, but it's also possible that the Allagans simply found the Triad and moved them to Azys Lla (similar to FFVI). We don't really know much about the FFXIV version of the Triad, so it's hard to say.

Personally, I'd like to see Omega snake its way back into the plot, and this seems to be a good opportunity. However, I don't see Omega making any serious appearances any time soon, just from a technical standpoint. We still have a lot of unresolved plot points to work through. The Waring Triad and Odin are the two that would seem most pressing. We already know that the Triads will be upcoming Trials, but we still don't know where they're going with Odin. Given that both Odin and Omega could be seen as Trial or Raid material, we could be waiting for a good long time (4.0 or later). I can definitely see one of them ending up as the next 8-man Raid in the future. It will be interesting to see which direction they take with each of them.

[Belhi]

I think at least at the moment its hard to argue the Garleans, or at least their leadership, aren't the badguys at least for the foreseeable future. The lore is pretty clear in regards to their aggressive empire building and conquest and the treatment of subjugated countries most significantly showed by the treatment of Ala Mhigo. This is probably compounded by their caste system where the civilians of conquered territories basically are the lowest run of society with less rights than a citizen.

That said, I do think we will eventually ally with a faction within Garlemald and not just one or two rebels. Garlemald is a nation of factions and while Garleans seem to generally all follow the belief that expansion and conquest is their right and duty, I suspect there are more moderate groups not so convinced forced oppression of every nation and mistreatment of the people of those territories is the way to lead the world to a better future.