Issue with double standards with Se and defining between dps and support.

[AskaRay]

...random party comp of:

Paladin, Paladin, Astrologian, Astrologian, Bard, Bard, Bard, Bard (and they all rotate Foe's as you suggest)


yeah....no thank you

But it is possible to get through DF'd stuff with this...
any of the raids? Coil? Well, show me a more balanced DF group that gets through that, too.

[Kelevra]

But it is possible to get through DF'd stuff with this...
any of the raids? Coil? Well, show me a more balanced DF group that gets through that, too.

...no Int debuff, no slashing debuff, alot of non-traited Blood for Blood (with ranged dps having the least max health among physical dmg dealers), LB3 being weaker than both melee and caster, no Eye for an Eye/Virus, RNG utilty with Astrologian, etc, etc with that particular random party make up

...is it possible, didn't say it wasn't, but still at a disadvantage vs a random composition comprised of 4 melee or 4 casters

[AskaRay]

...no Int debuff, no slashing debuff, alot of non-traited Blood for Blood (with ranged dps having the least max health among physical dmg dealers), LB3 being weaker than both melee and caster, no Eye for an Eye/Virus, RNG utilty with Astrologian, etc, etc with that particular random party make up

...is it possible, didn't say it wasn't, but still at a disadvantage vs a random composition comprised of 4 melee or 4 casters

But it's still possible. Unless everyone is a terrible player, you will still clear the content. It's not like it's utterly unbeatable.
No, it isn't "ideal" but it is a thing that can be done.

Do I want a WD buff? Sure I do, but the fact is we probably aren't getting one and if we don't it's not game breaking.

[Kelevra]

But it's still possible. Unless everyone is a terrible player, you will still clear the content. It's not like it's utterly unbeatable.
No, it isn't "ideal" but it is a thing that can be done.

Do I want a WD buff? Sure I do, but the fact is we probably aren't getting one and if we don't it's not game breaking.

thanks, that's sorta what the topic of the thread has been getting at