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    Rhode Schaeffer
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    Paladin TP issues should be adressed

    Could a method of restoring TP for Paladin be implemented?

    Warrior already has one that can be used very easily, and Dark Knight doesn't always use TP (they can use MP draining moves like Unmend, Dark Passenger, Abyssal Drain, Unleash) and other abilities use no TP at all (Low Blow, Reprisal, Plunge, Carve and Spit).

    Paladin lacks any way of sustaining their own TP outside of standing still and doing nothing or using Clemency. Maybe a possible solution would be to make Sheltron restore TP similar to Equilibrium but only if you're in Sword Oath? Or make each Shield Swipe restore TP.
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    Blitz Ace
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    Odin
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    i still find it funny i run out of TP so quickly and then look at the other DPS/tanks and i'm like welp... not gonna ask for a brd to sing for just me... *plays with thumb*
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    Ninster Barlow
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    Not a Paladin main, but when I recently went through the anima quest to get the Awoken gear for it, I noticed how bad my TP was nose-diving. I miss the old Shield Swipe now.
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    Nyghtmarerobu's Avatar
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    Liaysa Sineos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhode View Post
    Could a method of restoring TP for Paladin be implemented?

    Warrior already has one that can be used very easily, and Dark Knight doesn't always use TP (they can use MP draining moves like Unmend, Dark Passenger, Abyssal Drain, Unleash) and other abilities use no TP at all (Low Blow, Reprisal, Plunge, Carve and Spit).

    Paladin lacks any way of sustaining their own TP outside of standing still and doing nothing or using Clemency. Maybe a possible solution would be to make Sheltron restore TP similar to Equilibrium but only if you're in Sword Oath? Or make each Shield Swipe restore TP.
    Wait and hope they fix the problems with paladin in the next patch. At the moment, I don't know what a paladin is. Only tanks are Dark Knight and Warrior.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Paladin? Pah-lah-deen? Plate? Dinner? Chicken? Fried chicken?

    Are you talking about fried chicken?

    This word is foreign to XIV players. Please explain?
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    One thing that really struck me when farming A4 as an AST or MCH was how fast a PLD runs out of TP when main tanking. Fights with no downtime seem to be really brutal on them.
    It's not great with a DRK, either, and I really have to wonder why WAR is the only tank that got a TP recovery ability, albeit one that requires you to be out of tank stance.
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    Praesul Presul
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    You don't even need to be in Deliverance to recover TP as WAR. Something that people never keep in mind is that WARs recover TP every time they use one of their on GCD 0 TP abilities like Inner Beast or Steel Cyclone...Not only that, but if you use berserk there's that 5 second (or 2.5 second if you time it right) pacification where you can't do anything but recover TP. I was just testing my rotation in Defiance before I saw this thread and i was at 4:17 before I got bored and left the dummy, still had about 300 TP to spare, and it was with liberal usage of Fracture.

    In actual encounters with downtime you're literally never going to run out unless it involves lots of aoe. WAR has 0 TP problems even outside of Deliverance and it's pretty ridiculous.
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    Fjrwn Ymir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kietsu View Post
    It's not great with a DRK, either.
    I'm too busy spazzing with MP to even remember I have TP. Didn't even realise DRK might run out of TP in a long single-target fight. But makes sense. o.ô
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Kietsu View Post
    One thing that really struck me when farming A4 as an AST or MCH was how fast a PLD runs out of TP when main tanking. Fights with no downtime seem to be really brutal on them.
    It's not great with a DRK, either, and I really have to wonder why WAR is the only tank that got a TP recovery ability, albeit one that requires you to be out of tank stance.
    I think the dev team seriously overestimated the amount of spellcasting Paladins (and Dark Knights) would be doing. Every 3 seconds spent casting a spell is 60 TP recovered. If they thought Paladins would be casting Stoneskin fairly often (say as part of a GB -> RA -> RA/RoH -> SS rotation) then they probably thought Paladin and Warrior would have a similar TP consumption rates.
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I'm just personally confused as to how SE wants us to play Paladin, in contrast to how Paladin is currently being played by most of us.

    Putting aside our subpar damage output in comparison to our fellow War and Drk, our TP issues is just a kick in the balls I think. But it gets worse. You know Skill Speed? SE put 73 points of SS on Almace, our anima relic weapon. If you weren't running out of TP before, you sure as hell will now. In the meantime War and Drk are running around with Det and Crit already built into their anima relics. Making their superior damage compared to ours even better. Why SE? Why do you hate Paladin so much?

    This grinds my corn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Where's my daily baked deliciousness, Toruyna?

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